Guides Import genesis 8 character(only morph) to vam(with scale 100% in daz)

[donkilluminatti]

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Import genesis 8 character to vam(with scale 100% in daz) - genesis8 genesis2 daz vam import

1) DOWNLOAD "T-Pose-Gen2.zip" AND EXTRACT TO "%Documents%\DAZ 3D\Studio\My Library\Presets\Poses"
2) GOTO DAZ ADD GENESIS 8 TO SCENE
3) CONFIGURE GENESIS 8 CHARACTER(SCALE HAVE TO BE 100%)
4) GOTO "Posing"(NEAR CHARACTER "Parameters") AND APPLY "T-Pose-Gen2" FROM "Saved Files"
5) ADD GENESIS 2 TO SCENE
6) FIT "GENESIS 2" TO "GENESIS 8"


7) WAIT UNTIL PROCESS STOP USES
8) CHANGE GENESIS 2 "RESULUTION LEVEL" TO "BASE"
9) HIDE GENESIS 8 TO PREVENT EXPORT WITH GENESIS 2
10) EXPORT AS "OBJ" WITH...

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[TheGreenCat]

Great guide ! Any way something similar could be done with skins ?

 

[donkilluminatti]

Great guide ! Any way something similar could be done with skins ?

Thank you!
I think it's better to ask about it on the official discord server(https://discord.gg/2wwwv7Ydbt) - there's a better chance of getting some good options.

 

[jillian]

Very useful and thorough detailed guide.

Might suggest in:

21) CLICK ON NEW MORPH AND SELECT "ERC Freeze..." AND CLICK "Accept"

add uncheck restore figure under options before accept.

 

[JoyBoy]

Great guide ! Any way something similar could be done with skins ?

There isn't any similar way but there is a way to convert textures to Gen 2 UV which is what you're talking about.

Guides - Guide and Blender template to convert V4, M4, G2/3/8/8.1/9 textures to G2F/M

This Guide and Blender Template file will allow you to convert (bake) a set of G2F or G2M textures based on (V4, M4, G2/3/8/8.1/9) sets that you own. It can be used to convert Diffuse, Normal, Spec and Gloss if these are included with your...

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[donkilluminatti]

add uncheck restore figure under options before accept.

Can you describe why should I uncheck it?

 

[jillian]

Can you describe why should I uncheck it?

When I leave it unchecked the rigging reverts to the premorph state. Or at least tfor me that's what happens.

 

[Lione]

Thx but I cannot even find & understand these steps haha:

4) GOTO "Posing"(NEAR CHARACTER "Parameters") AND APPLY "T-Pose-Gen2" FROM "Saved Files"
Where is that in detail ?

I find "Posing" at the right side but there is no Character Parameters near that.
And there is no Saved Files there.

5) ADD GENESIS 2 TO SCENE
> You mean add a second character Gen2 Model to the current Scene where my current Model is ?

6) FIT "GENESIS 2" TO "GENESIS 8" WITH THIS PARAMETERS: Figure -> Genesis 2 Male\Female, Type -> Full-Body
> Where is that Menu ?

You are pro and i am very thankful but its really hard since all these things are not visable from scratch

And it's not that i do not Google but the DAZ Resouces at Google are rare not even Screenshots if i search and the official DAZ Site is no good.

 

[donkilluminatti]

Where is that in detail ?

Look in the presets

You mean add a second character Gen2 Model to the current Scene where my current Model is ?

Yep

Where is that Menu ?

Sorry, lost. Edit -> Figure -> Genesis 2 Male\Female, Type -> Full-Body

And it's not that i do not Google but the DAZ Resouces at Google are rare not even Screenshots if i search and the official DAZ Site is no good.

I heard you, I'll be sure to add screenshots in the near future to make the process clearer.

 

[Lione]

Thx a lot

Id highly appreciate you would do Screenshots.
Or a Guide Video?


So ok since i cannot give up trying my own i continued a bit.
I hope its ok if i add it here.

1) DOWNLOAD "T-Pose-Gen2.zip" AND EXTRACT TO "%Documents%\DAZ 3D\Studio\My Library\Presets\Poses"

> Done

2) GOTO DAZ AND ADD GENESIS 8 TO SCENE

Done


3) CONFIGURE GENESIS 8 CHARACTER(SCALE HAVE TO BE 100%)

> I addded Victoria 8 Anatomics, changed Breast Shapes with a Plugin to my likes and so on ...
Model look s good now as i wished it should look
Scale is 100%

4) GOTO "Posing" -> "Presets"(NEAR CHARACTER "Parameters") AND APPLY "T-Pose-Gen2" FROM "Saved Files"


I found the T-Pose under Left Side Menue Genesis 8 Female > Presets > Poses
There is nothing on the right side Poses even if i copy all possible Presets Folders so i hope i am right.
I am using latest DAZ Pro 4.15.02

5) ADD NEW GENESIS 2 TO SCENE
Done



6) FIT "GENESIS 2" TO "GENESIS 8" WITH THIS PARAMETERS: Edit -> Figure -> Genesis 2 Male\Female, Type -> Full-Body

This has to be explained more detailed

> Parent to Target on or Off ?
> Do i have to pre select either Gen2 or Gen8 in the Scene ?

I have to be very careful here with Steps because if i do it wrong the Model Implodes


7) WAIT UNTIL PROCESS STOP USES
Done

8) CHANGE GENESIS 2 "Resolution Level" TO "Base"
Done

9) HIDE EVERYTHING ON SCENE EXCEPT GENESIS 2 TO PREVENT ERROR WHILE IMPORT WITH Morph Loader Pro(Make sure that only the genesis 2 model is exported - you can check it by importing obj file to blender)

> Now what about the Anatomics here ?
They are shown as GEN8 Files in the Scene Menue and do not seem to be cloned over to my Gen2 during the Fit Process.
If i hide them at top right Scene Menue they are not available in my Gen2 Model then.
The Gen2 then looks like the default Victoria Model.
Like without Genital.

Did i miss a Step to actually copy the Anatomics over to GEN2 during Fit Process ?

Am i doing something wrong in attaching the Anatomics process wise?


10) EXPORT AS ".obj" WITH "DAZ Studio" PRESET AND CHECK "Ignore Invisible Nodes" ON
> And the Rest ( a lot ) which is Pre Checked has to be as it is ?

11) CHECK FILESIZE - IT HAVE TO BE LESS THEN 4MB, OTHERWISE REPEAT STEPS 5-8

> Filesize is under 4 MB

> If i open it in Blender i have the GEN 2 and it looks really good but the Anatomics are missing here too.


12) ADD NEW GENESIS 2 TO SCENE

Do i have to delete my GEN 2 Model here which is still in the Screen ?
Do i need to add a new Scene?

So i just Loaded a new GEN2 into the current
Scene because you write "TO Scene" and not "to a new Scene"

Done.
It is Overlapping my GEN2 now

13) GOTO MENU: Edit - Figure - Morph Loader Pro

That does not work it tells me it can only work on one Figure a Time

Here i am .

A bit further but again some more Questions

Greetings

 

[donkilluminatti]

> Parent to Target on or Off ?

Parent to target to off

Now what about my Breast Morphs and Booty Morphs and Face Morphs and Anatomics now?

Morphs are parameters. Where do they come from in the scene?

And the Rest ( a lot ) which is Pre Checked has to be as it is ?

Unless otherwise specified, it is the default.

Do i have to delete my GEN 2 Model here which is still in the Screen ?
Do i need to add a new Scene?

It doesn't matter. One single model is only needed when exporting the obj file

That does not work it tells me it can only work on one Figure a Time

It's not clear. In 20 minutes I will make a manual with pictures.

 

[Lione]

Awesome

 

[donkilluminatti]

Awesome

Here

 

[Lione]

Hi thx soooo much

So this is so much better to follow with Screenshots.

Ok i am done, almost


New Questions i have:

Although i activated compression in the Morph Export i do now have 1054 Files in the Export Folder and not one
Perhaps you can tell me how these file will be one ?

Or is it just that 8 Kbyte DSF File which i added as a Parameter ?
In your Screen

You just added that Single Morph File.
So i guess i shouldnt have selected the entire Genesis 2 with all submenues right ?

Why is that so tiny then with just 8 Kiliobyes?
So Skin and clothing and Hair and everything will be selected in VAM for customization ?

Regarding FIT:

I figuered out some other things with Shape Plugins i added to my Model which destroy the Models fitting and i also had
Geometry Issues in Morph loader Pro two times just using the Standard Gen8 Model.

I read at several resources that the Eyelashes are troubelling Morph Loader Pro
https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/5230861/
but in your screenshot you had them selected so it should work?


Regarding VAM:

I am having Issues then finding your ATOM Loading Select Screen to load the actual DSF File.

Your Guide tells

• Launch VAM (Or do a reset - Main UI -> File -> Hard Reset)
• Add person (Edit Mode -> Add Atom -> People -> Person)

> Then a Blank Person appears.

• Find our morph and apply it to the person (Select -> Person -> Male\Famale Morphs)

> This is not existing in my VAM ( Full Version )

I have Select > Person only

Nothing else and if i click > add Person there a second Blank person appears.

There is no Selection Menue i could browser then . Not even if i checkbox Select Atom on Add
Not even after a Hard Reset

Greetings

 

[donkilluminatti]

Perhaps you can tell me how these file will be one ?

As you can see, only gen2 is selected and the same file(s) will be saved as gen2.dsf
That is what you are looking for.

but in your screenshot you had them selected so it should work?

They are selected, but hidden.

The selection at this point means nothing, since only what is visible is important for exporting.(Ignore Invisible Nodes)

This is not existing in my VAM ( Full Version )

I do not know what kind of VAM you have and what status, but when you add a Person, adds a normal character that has Famale Morphs (for example), that's where you look. If none of this, then I can not help you. Look for the answer on the internet.

 

[Lione]

Hi

I have VAM

Ok perhaps it has been because i just added a default ATOM Person and not a character which has a Morph attached.
How can i see if a Character is compatible ?
Can i browse the VAR for a included Morph?

I thought i can attach a Morph to any Character.

But the Way is correct i open a Character > I choose Edit >Select > Atom > Person
and if it has a Morph my DSF should be visable ?

I have a last question if you can answer me that

Is there a way i can verify my DSF is correct exported created?
If i reopen the DSF in DAZ it opens it but i see a empty Scene with nothing in.
Is that normal, or is that a sign the DSF has a Corruption / mistake in one of my Steps?

Greetings

 

[donkilluminatti]

and if it has a Morph my DSF should be visable ?

Yes. You can find it by search.

Is there a way i can verify my DSF is correct exported created?

Mainly by checking that in the folder VAM in which copied .dsf file after running VAM (it seems that when you start the file is converted) there are 2 new files with the same name but with the file format: .vmb and .vmi

Is that normal, or is that a sign the DSF has a Corruption / mistake in one of my Steps?

What kind?

 

[donkilluminatti]

But the Way is correct i open a Character > I choose Edit >Select > Atom > Person

Let's try to do it the way you do it:
Scene Add Atom -> People -> Person -> Add Atom
Select -> Person -> control
Female Morph -> @find *

Do you do the same?

 

[Lione]

Hi thx .

This is also what i see .
I either see all Morphs or i can search for a Morph

But if you expect my yesterday generated Morph i copied into Morph/Female would be available here , it is not listed here

 

[donkilluminatti]

it is not listed here

Please check vam folder where .dsf file was copied, do you see .vmb and .vmi files?

 

[Lione]

Yes i have three Files .vmb and.vmi now.

I am a bit further.

I copied some other DSF Morph Files in deactivated Beta and made another Hard Reset ( always needed? ) and they appear as selectable Morphs.

Also my new Created one now appears after another Hard Reset, finally unblairwitched.

But nothing other than that her breast move a tiny bit if i move the Slider to max.
Nothing else Morph Wise happens if i move the slider.

Technical if i move the Slider to max it would then Morph to my created Model?
Is that what you mean with attach ?
Would i have to reset something here Morph wise regarding the Default values the loaded Model has?

I also found something in the Workflow

20) Enabling Edit Mode(Parameters->Morphs -> Morph Loaded -> RMB -> Edit Mode)

What is RMB ?



My yesterday Exported Morphed Daz Exported DSF does not look like the usual DSF as i noticed now .
If i edit the Usual DSF they all look like my VMI.



DSF looks like

The VMB

the VMI

The Morph is shown red

Its damaged right ?

And what wonders me the Morph Menu seems to be oriented by the id / display name and not by the Filename i had given it.
It is displayed under gen 2 while the Filename is another.

 

[donkilluminatti]

always needed?

For me yes, if you you need to convert new\changed .dsf

What is RMB ?

Right mouse button. Standart pc\internet abbreviation.

Morph to my created Model?

Your morph change what was changed in DAZ - difference before change and after - this what doing morph.

Filename is another

Filename gives nothing. Only id\displayName in the VMI file makes a difference

Its damaged right ?

Maybe it doesn't make any difference because it doesn't make any difference.

 

[Lione]

Hi

thx for your time again.

I can report Success

I have chosen a Standard Model and did not attach any Plugin Shapes morph whatever bigger booty Goblin Look Morphs as a example and it worked.
Once i move the slider it morphs.
Awesome.

BUT now it comes


T-Pose and Model Creations using Shape and Morph Pugins:

1. Imploding Model

Technical , do you know if T-Pose is only working with Standard Gen 8 Files which are not using Plugins and being created with a mixture of Morphs like
additional added Anatomics or Booty Morph Plugins and so on ?
Because thats what i do.

I create a character with new Faces ,Booty, Anatomics .
I can say that the FIT Process also often just fails if i use this and that Body Shape / Morph Plugin.

For example if the Shape / Model Size i create is not exactly matching the size of the Standard Gen 8 anymore.
I sure afterwards set it to 100%. before i attach T-Pose then and then a Gen2 Model to FIT.

It just implodes to weird Geometry then.

So this was a side Effect i noticed working with T-Pose and Fit Process.
Sometimes it works sometimes not to FIT to Gen2 .

2. Did i miss a Preparation when using Morph Plugins?

So is there anything i have to do after i created my Character so that all Morphs and Anatomics i additional add will be one with
the Model before i attach T-Pose and FIT?

Like merge all and everything to ONE Person Morph Gen8 ?

It seems to be important that a GEN2 has to be created as one and not a Multiple Creation of Plugins and Morphs
so i wonder if i can like klick a Button to merge all i have added to the Model .

Like Saving and reloading then so all i attached is no longe a Mixture prior to ONE .

Currently i see like on the right Top Side Menue

>Genesis 8
>Genesis 8 Female Genital
>Geness 8 Booty Morphs
>Genesis 8 Elf Ears Morph

.....

 

[donkilluminatti]

can say that the FIT Process also often just fails if i use this and that Body Shape / Morph Plugin.

Like merge all and everything to ONE Person Morph Gen8 ?

This guide only allows you to transfer a character's shape, and not all characters can be transferred, as fitting gives an approximate result. The rest of the things in the scene can be transferred through unity. However, for example, it is not possible to transfer a custom genitalia to interact on stage, as it is embedded in the VAM itself by default, and is inserted when the character is inserted on stage. Moreover, there is dynamic morphing on it, when other objects interact with it, and if you try to import your own vagina, you need to write your own handlers.


However, this is my opinion and understanding of the process. I suppose there is a way to make a better fit and replace the default genitalia with your genitalia.

 

[Lione]

Hi,

thx a so much for the quick reply again and all your help donkilluminatti.

☘

Greetings.