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VaM 1.x Too many dependencoes for my character

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electriceel

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Hi, I was about to uplaod a character today.
After I learned how to package to a var i was shocked to see all the dependencies. I don't want to make anyone go though the trouble of downloading them all.
How can i reduce them? Pls help out a noob.

Those are the dependencies attached to my character:

AcidBubbles.Timeline.210 By: AcidBubbles License: CC BY-SA Link: https://github.com/acidbubbles/vam-timeline
Agataki.Peeky_appearance_presets.latest By: Agataki License: CC BY
Androinz.Ellie_TLOU2_Modified_Fancy.3 By: Androinz License: FC Link: https://hub.virtamate.com/members/androinz.5842/
AnythingFashionVR.blackWhite_skirt.latest By: AnythingFashionVR License: CC BY-NC-ND Link: https://www.patreon.com/posts/38158085
AnythingFashionVR.wool_Tights.latest By: AnythingFashionVR License: CC BY-NC-ND Link: https://www.patreon.com/posts/39729982
AppetiteVisual.Codex_Morphicus.latest By: AppetiteVisual License: CC BY
AshAuryn.AshAuryn_Breast_Morphs_Re-Release.latest By: AshAuryn License: CC BY
AshAuryn.Expressions.latest By: AshAuryn License: CC BY Link: https://patreon.com/ashauryn
AshAuryn.Pose_Tools.latest By: AshAuryn License: CC BY Link: https://patreon.com/ashauryn
Bamair1984.Long_Hair.latest By: Bamair1984 License: CC BY Link: https://www.patreon.com/bamair1984
Blazedust.Script_ColorScale.1 By: Blazedust License: CC BY
Blazedust.Script_ParentHoldLink.1 By: Blazedust License: FC
Bob Nothing.Girlfriend1.1 By: Bob Nothing License: CC BY
Cgomes.1_scene_thamara.1 By: Cgomes License: FC
Cgomes.AVA_FUCK_json.1 By: Cgomes License: CC BY
Cgomes.THAMARA_FUCK_json.1 By: Cgomes License: CC BY
everlaster.RenVR_Originals_Pack1.latest By: everlaster License: CC BY-NC
everlaster.RenVR_Originals_Pack3.latest By: everlaster License: CC BY-NC
Frief.Sportsbra.latest By: Frief License: CC BY
hazmhox.clouds101.latest By: hazmhox License: CC BY-SA
hazmhox.white-room.1 By: hazmhox License: CC BY-SA
Hunting-Succubus.Enhanced_Eyes.latest By: Hunting-Succubus License: CC BY-NC Link: https://www.patreon.com/HunTingSuccuBus
Hunting-Succubus.Eye_WetLine_Test.latest By: Hunting-Succubus License: CC BY
Hunting-Succubus.EyeBall_Shadow.latest By: Hunting-Succubus License: CC BY-NC
Hunting-Succubus.FemaleBodySmootherTessellation.1 By: Hunting-Succubus License: CC BY Link: https://www.patreon.com/HunTingSuccuBus
ivansx.Geoshell_Catwoman_Samus.latest By: ivansx License: CC BY-NC-SA
Jackaroo.Eyes_Lips_Nails!.latest By: Jackaroo License: CC BY Link: patreon.com/Jackaroo
KdollMASTA.KDoll_Mk10.1 By: KdollMASTA License: CC BY-NC Link: https://www.patreon.com/KdollMASTA
kemenate.Decals.latest By: kemenate License: FC Link: https://hub.virtamate.com/resources/decals-pack-01-unisex.200/
kemenate.Female_Body_Hair.latest By: kemenate License: FC Link: https://hub.virtamate.com/resources/female-body-hair-pack.202/
kemenate.Morphs.latest By: kemenate License: FC Link: https://hub.virtamate.com/resources/morphs-unisex.213/
LFE.AutoPupil0.8 By: LFE License: CC BY-SA Link: https://github.com/lfe999/VamAutoPupil
MacGruber.Essentials.3 By: MacGruber License: PC EA Link: https://www.patreon.com/MacGruber_Laboratory
MacGruber.Essentials.6 By: MacGruber License: CC BY-SA Link: https://hub.virtamate.com/resources/macgruber-essentials.160/
MacGruber.Life.10 By: MacGruber License: CC BY-SA Link: https://hub.virtamate.com/resources/life.165/
MacGruber.Life.12 By: MacGruber License: PC EA Link: https://hub.virtamate.com/resources/life.165/
MacGruber.Life.13 By: MacGruber License: CC BY-SA Link: https://hub.virtamate.com/resources/life.165/
MacGruber.Life.7 By: MacGruber License: CC BY-SA Link: https://www.patreon.com/MacGruber_Laboratory
MacGruber.PostMagic.3 By: MacGruber License: CC BY-SA Link: https://www.patreon.com/MacGruber_Laboratory
mopedlampe.Morwyn.latest By: mopedlampe License: CC BY
MR.Windy_Forest.latest By: MR License: CC BY
Mr_CadillacV8.!Morphs!.latest By: Mr_CadillacV8 License: FC Link: https://www.patreon.com/Mr_CadillacV8
NoStage3.Hair_Long_Side_3.latest By: NoStage3 License: CC BY Link: https://www.patreon.com/posts/45329967
NoStage3.Hair_Long_Side_5.latest By: NoStage3 License: CC BY Link: https://www.patreon.com/posts/45630364
NoStage3.Hair_Long_Upswept_Top_Bun.latest By: NoStage3 License: CC BY Link: https://www.patreon.com/posts/34411659
Oeshii.BaroquesqueHair.latest By: Oeshii License: FC Link: www.patreon.com/oeshii
particle pinnacle.missing_morphs.latest By: particle pinnacle License: CC BY
ParticlePinnacle.bellybutton_morphs.latest By: ParticlePinnacle License: CC BY
QBase.AutoMorphsFromEasyMate.latest By: QBase License: CC BY
RenVR.Sana.latest By: RenVR License: CC BY-NC Link: patreon.com/RenVR
Roac.Arty.latest By: Roac License: CC BY Link: https://www.patreon.com/Roac
Roac.Arty_alt_hairs.latest By: Roac License: CC BY
Roac.Elfin_hair.latest By: Roac License: CC BY Link: www.patreon.com/Roac
Roac.Flip_hair.latest By: Roac License: CC BY Link: www.patreon.com/Roac
Roac.Superlong.latest By: Roac License: CC BY Link: www.patreon.com/Roac
Saint66.Milf_Midage.latest By: Saint66 License: CC BY-NC
Saint66.Saint66_Eddie.latest By: Saint66 License: CC BY-SA
Saking55.AutoBulger.7 By: Saking55 License: CC BY
schnazzn.bodymorphs.latest By: schnazzn License: CC BY-SA
Spacedog.Import_Reloaded_Lite.latest By: Spacedog License: FC
Stopper.ClothingPluginManager.7 By: Stopper License: CC BY
Stopper.Shoe_Helper.4 By: Stopper License: CC BY
SupaRioAmateur.7th_Heaven_Clothing.latest By: SupaRioAmateur License: CC BY-NC-SA Link: https://www.patreon.com/SupaRioAmateur
SupaRioAmateur.7th_Heaven_Fighter.latest By: SupaRioAmateur License: CC BY-NC-SA Link: https://www.patreon.com/suparioamateur
SupaRioAmateur.Anaconda_Outfit.latest By: SupaRioAmateur License: CC BY-NC-SA Link: https://www.patreon.com/suparioamateur
SupaRioAmateur.Breasts_Morphs_Assorted.latest By: SupaRioAmateur License: CC BY-NC-SA Link: https://www.patreon.com/SupaRioAmateur
SupaRioAmateur.DoA_Bikini.latest By: SupaRioAmateur License: CC BY-NC-SA
SupaRioAmateur.FFX_Lulu.latest By: SupaRioAmateur License: CC BY-NC-SA Link: https://www.patreon.com/SupaRioAmateur
SupaRioAmateur.Layered_Nip_8K.latest By: SupaRioAmateur License: CC BY-NC-SA Link: https://www.patreon.com/SupaRioAmateur
SupaRioAmateur.Nails_as_Cloth.latest By: SupaRioAmateur License: CC BY-NC-SA Link: http://patreon.com/SupaRioAmateur
SupaRioAmateur.Navy_Stool_&_Poses.latest By: SupaRioAmateur License: CC BY-NC-SA Link: https://www.patreon.com/SupaRioAmateur
SupaRioAmateur.Olga_Janetine_Hair.latest By: SupaRioAmateur License: CC BY-NC-SA Link: https://www.patreon.com/SupaRioAmateur
SupaRioAmateur.Scarlet_FF7R.latest By: SupaRioAmateur License: CC BY-NC-SA Link: https://www.patreon.com/SupaRioAmateur
SupaRioAmateur.Tron_Inspired_High_Ponytail.latest By: SupaRioAmateur License: CC BY-NC-SA Link: https://www.patreon.com/posts/vam-tron-high-32655199
TenStrip.Morphs.latest By: TenStrip License: FC Link: https://www.deviantart.com/tenstrip
TGC.Clothing_NooN_TapeGag.latest By: TGC License: CC BY-SA Link: https://www.deviantart.com/noone102000
TGC.Clothing_Richabri_LacewearTop.latest By: TGC License: CC BY-SA Link: https://www.patreon.com/posts/40090608
TGC.Clothing_Richabri_LingerieWristbands.latest By: TGC License: CC BY-SA Link: https://www.patreon.com/posts/40047117
trety.EyesIrisFixes.latest By: trety License: FC
TToby.arms_morph_collection.latest By: TToby License: CC BY-NC
V2.___UniversalMorphCollection___.latest By: V2 License: FC Link: https://www.patreon.com
VaMChan.Hair_Afro_braids.latest By: VaMChan License: CC BY Link: https://www.patreon.com/posts/hairstyle-short-34177301
VaMChan.Hair_Pigtails_and_Bangs.latest By: VaMChan License: CC BY Link: https://www.patreon.com/posts/hairstyle-with-35133621
VaMChan.Yurufuwa_bob_02.latest By: VaMChan License: CC BY Link: https://www.patreon.com/posts/39934236
Vamtastic.Layla_Look.latest By: Vamtastic License: CC BY
Vamtastic.Zang.latest By: Vamtastic License: CC BY-NC
VamXFan.Neutral-Environment-Color.latest By: VamXFan License: CC BY Link: https://www.patreon.com/VamXfan
vecterror._MorphCollection_.latest By: vecterror License: FC Link: https://www.patreon.com/vecterror
vecterror.MFmegaPackvol.latest By: vecterror License: CC BY-NC Link: https://www.patreon.com/vecterror
VeeRifter.BreastAutoGravity.2 By: VeeRifter License: CC BY-SA
VL_13.Shoe_KIT2.latest By: VL_13 License: CC BY Link: https://www.patreon.com/VL_13
WeebU.Futa_Hair.latest By: WeebU License: FC Link: https://www.patreon.com/oeshii https://www.patreon.com/nostage3
WeebU.My_morphs.latest By: WeebU License: FC Link: https://www.patreon.com/WeebUVR
WgSoup.WindControl+.8 By: WgSoup License: CC BY
Wolverine333.AMBER.latest By: Wolverine333 License: CC BY
Wolverine333.BARBIE.latest By: Wolverine333 License: CC BY
Wolverine333.JILL_LOOK.latest By: Wolverine333 License: CC BY
Wolverine333.LAUREN_2.latest By: Wolverine333 License: CC BY
Wolverine333.LAUREN_3.latest By: Wolverine333 License: CC BY
Wolverine333.LAUREN_4.latest By: Wolverine333 License: CC BY
Wolverine333.maria2_0_2.latest By: Wolverine333 License: CC BY
Wolverine333.MIA.latest By: Wolverine333 License: CC BY
Wolverine333.SHELBY.latest By: Wolverine333 License: CC BY
YameteOuji.Under_PantyBasic.latest By: YameteOuji License: CC BY Link: https://yameteouji.wixsite.com/store
 
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I see a lot of packages with custom morphs. You could probably cut down on those by merging the character's active morphs.

Try one of these plugins:
 
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How do you share the character? Appearance preset? If not (like a scene) don't, use appearance preset.
But overall :
  • Create a character with zero clothes. Naked is the way to go to reduce the dependencies. Just suggest potential "free/CC-BY" usage through screenshots in your release.
  • Prefere appearances. Scene is pointless... anyone knowing how to use VAM even at a "newcomer level" knows how to load an appearance
  • Use merge as suggested by Clownmug IF and ONLY IF, you're using morph packages that allows usage through the licence you're targeting ( if CC-BY, you need to use morphs that are only CC-BY or more permissive like CC-0 )
  • Don't load plugins on an appearance, like the clothes, suggest usages/best pratices in the release.
 
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How do you share the character? Appearance preset? If not (like a scene) don't, use appearance preset.
But overall :
  • Create a character with zero clothes. Naked is the way to go to reduce the dependencies. Just suggest potential "free/CC-BY" usage through screenshots in your release.
  • Prefere appearances. Scene is pointless... anyone knowing how to use VAM even at a "newcomer level" knows how to load an appearance
  • Use merge as suggested by Clownmug IF and ONLY IF, you're using morph packages that allows usage through the licence you're targeting ( if CC-BY, you need to use morphs that are only CC-BY or more permissive like CC-0 )
  • Don't load plugins on an appearance, like the clothes, suggest usages/best pratices in the release.

I am always looking for best practices regarding publishing as a beginner. So i am intrigued by the statement regarding scenes are pointless for sharing looks - every single look i have found so far is published with or through a scene, so you would say that is bad practice? What would you say if the morphs and presets are in one var, a showcase scene in another?

And why are some established and loved creators putting hub hosted clothing within their look scene itself (with all the files and textures instead of referencing them), increasing the size some times for hundreds of mb just for clothing (that you may already have)? Is this something you have to do to achieve something which can't be done otherwise or what could be the reason behind it? Isn't this this bad practice (as i thought before, also stated in several guides here)?
 
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And why are some established and loved creators putting hub hosted clothing within their look scene itself (with all the files and textures instead of referencing them), increasing the size some times for hundreds of mb just for clothing (that you may already have)? Is this something you have to do to achieve something which can't be done otherwise or what could be the reason behind it? Isn't this this bad practice (as i thought before, also stated in several guides here)?
Almost always one or more of these:
  • don't know they shouldn't, the implications, or how to change that practice
  • don't care
  • want everything in there no matter what
  • target audiences that can't access the Hub easily
  • subscribers complain they don't know how to get dependencies
For a look maker, especially one that has a Patreon and depends on subscriptions, not adding clothes and a scene will jeopardise immensely his work because people are expecting all that.
Those who share for free don't have the concern about losing supporters, so they're more free to follow best practices.

Ideally you could have 2 VARs to please both worlds:
  • VAR with just the naked person: appearance preset, textures, morphs, what is needed for the person, no scene
    • for those who want only the person
  • VAR showcasing the person: takes the VAR above with the person and has a scene with clothes, environment, etc
    • for those that want the person showing off
 
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