Plugins + Scripts [Experimental] Alternative Futa

[RunRudolf]

Question: Is there a way with AltFutas to hide the cock when wearing clothing? On Male based Futas, this works just like males where clothing has a disable anatomy option. Every time I put some clothes on an AF, something sticks out...

You can do it as I do in my scene, see https://hub.virtamate.com/resources/in-a-good-mood-futa-female-camride.52545/. This requires however some timeline triggers and does not work automatically.

 

[RunRudolf]

There might be a better, more natural workaround, but which requires a bit of tweaking/effort: using Foreskin & Erection plug-in together with Clothing Triggers plug-in, so that when a clothing item is worn, the Erection plug-in makes your AF person's genitals flaccid and small, so they can be concealed underneath the clothing, and when the clothing is detached, your AF person gets an erection. You can even trigger it using a time lapse. Not so many clothing items will work well concealing it right away (towel, bathrobe, or some shorts do), but I'm tweaking some clothing sim textures in order to achieve this properly and give a natural bulge. I'll upload it when it's ready, but it'll take time, since there's so much to test.

I think I could do a bit of research about whether I could implement an auto routine for this in my plugins. If I manage to reliably identify shorts/trousers/underwear, this should be automatable. Would that help?

 

[SlimerJSpud]

I think I could do a bit of research about whether I could implement an auto routine for this in my plugins. If I manage to reliably identify shorts/trousers/underwear, this should be automatable. Would that help?

Definitely! We need the tranny tuck capability.

 

[Virtamales]

I think I could do a bit of research about whether I could implement an auto routine for this in my plugins. If I manage to reliably identify shorts/trousers/underwear, this should be automatable. Would that help?

Absolutely!! Thank you very much!!

 

[SlimerJSpud]

Doing it via a trigger should be good enough. Clothes are usually made to disappear or detach that way.

 

[RunRudolf]

What do you think about this @SlimerJSpud & @Virtamales? Penis and pubic hair are automatically hidden if a clothing with active "DisableAnatomy" is attached, and unhidden again if this clothing is removed.
This would work with AltFuta as we all know it with males, where the "Disable Anatomy" of shorts, pants etc. is used to do this.

This method only uses the existing checkbox "Disable Anatomy" each clothing item has. If you activate this, the plugin routine will hide both penis materials in Stopper's AltFuta plugin, but also hide pubic hair. Once the clothing item is removed, pubic hair and penis materials are shown again automatically.

To Do: Make it work when clothing is not added/removed, but sim detached.

 

[stylesi]

What do you think about this @SlimerJSpud & @Virtamales? Penis and pubic hair are automatically hidden if a clothing with active "DisableAnatomy" is attached, and unhidden again if this clothing is removed.
This would work with AltFuta as we all know it with males, where the "Disable Anatomy" of shorts, pants etc. is used to do this.

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This method only uses the existing checkbox "Disable Anatomy" each clothing item has. If you activate this, the plugin routine will hide both penis materials in Stopper's AltFuta plugin, but also hide pubic hair. Once the clothing item is removed, pubic hair and penis materials are shown again automatically.

To Do: Make it work when clothing is not added/removed, but sim detached.

Pretty nice looking solution right there!

 

[SlimerJSpud]

Yes! This would be great.

 

[Virtamales]

What do you think about this @SlimerJSpud & @Virtamales? Penis and pubic hair are automatically hidden if a clothing with active "DisableAnatomy" is attached, and unhidden again if this clothing is removed.
This would work with AltFuta as we all know it with males, where the "Disable Anatomy" of shorts, pants etc. is used to do this.

View attachment 483549

This method only uses the existing checkbox "Disable Anatomy" each clothing item has. If you activate this, the plugin routine will hide both penis materials in Stopper's AltFuta plugin, but also hide pubic hair. Once the clothing item is removed, pubic hair and penis materials are shown again automatically.

To Do: Make it work when clothing is not added/removed, but sim detached.

The method you created is pretty cool for people who like a fast, non-teasing undressing, but your plug-in already works wonders now that works well with Alt-Futas. Just watch my Alt-Futa guys Chris and Liam take off that towel (by Maru01) and shorts (by AnythingFashion, PJ Shorts, with custom texture map), both with some physics parameters tweaked. The erection is done with Bill_Prime Clothing triggers "Actions OnRemove": Just triggered your RealisticErection "erection test"using timer within the trigger itself. The "Actions OnWear" trigger your erection Test to make the genitals flaccid (some morphs tweaked) and also reset the colthing simulation, so that their family jewels are again well concealed inside the clothing.
It's the CLOTHING that needs a lot of work done, not your already marvelous plug-in! Hope this fun video helps everyone!

 

[SlimerJSpud]

@Virtamales this technique works very well, as long as the clothing is loose enough. I can make it work on skirts, no problem. It doesn't seem to work for tight panties on Altfutas. How did you get it to work on those tropical shorts? Tight panties with a slight bulge would be amazing.

 

[Virtamales]

@Virtamales this technique works very well, as long as the clothing is loose enough. I can make it work on skirts, no problem. It doesn't seem to work for tight panties on Altfutas. How did you get it to work on those tropical shorts? Tight panties with a slight bulge would be amazing.

It's AnythingFashionVR PJ Shorts, with one of the many pretty, manly custom main textures I made for it. The sim texture has also been retouched by me in order to tighten the leg area... I'm afraid I cannot upload the retouched textures/recolors since this article has a CC BY-NC-ND license... Such a pity... To make it conceal the genitals, and detach in a more natural way, I just reduced the physics iterations to 2, the undress threshold to 0.00, collision radius to 0.20, and the friction to 0.150. "Female" tight panties or bottom items with a bulge can be achieved by retouching the sim texture and fiddling the collision radius or other parameters, but it's a pain in the ass, requires lots of testing. I wish clothing creators felt like doing this kind of stuff for the sake of Alt-Futas, grabbed their DAZ3D Duf files, and added some nice bulges to them... That'd mean more gay content for VAM and I'd be happy!

 

[SlimerJSpud]

I'm not going to attempt changing the sim texture. There is this boner-to-go asset, but It's a bit much for what I'm describing. Basically, if you peeked up an AltFuta's skirt and saw some panties with a bulge, you might think twice about what to say next. That's what I'm after, but the skirt technique seems to work, mostly.

 

[SlimerJSpud]

NVM about the boner-to-go. It's just a prop you use on the outside of the clothes, then color to match.

 

[RunRudolf]

I am now working one the physics undress case, and it works basically. I will now add some tweaks to the process to make the detachmemt appear more natural. Its just going to be an automatic approximation, never as good as a fine tuned trigger based individual setup as yours above or mine in my scene, but good for basic use. Teigger based fine tuning is a hell of work.

 

[SlimerJSpud]

I'm seeing some weird behavior with the trigger approach. I have it set so when a certain pose is triggered, I set the material alpha to -1 and trigger allow detach. I'm not deleting the clothing, I'm making it disappear with alpha, and setting it to undress. There seems to be some interaction with the clothing trigger plugin and the realistic erection plugin such that it doesn't work. The clothing trigger should make it work. Sometimes it starts working with some fiddling. I have a basic test scene I can post.

 

[RunRudolf]

I'm seeing some weird behavior with the trigger approach. I have it set so when a certain pose is triggered, I set the material alpha to -1 and trigger allow detach. I'm not deleting the clothing, I'm making it disappear with alpha, and setting it to undress. There seems to be some interaction with the clothing trigger plugin and the realistic erection plugin such that it doesn't work. The clothing trigger should make it work. Sometimes it starts working with some fiddling. I have a basic test scene I can post.

Only problem I found is solved by going to "Control Center" and first increase to some value and then reduce "Test Erection" slider to zero. After this, the Clothing Triggers work for the erection states.
This sometimes happens due to the sync of erection inputs between Control Center and Erection plugin.

 

[RunRudolf]

Sim and non-sim clothing removal plus pubic hair hiding now works for AltFuta, with a dynamic transition effect.
If a clothings "Adjust Glutes" checkbox is active, the penis material and pubic hair is hidden if this clothing piece is put on. If "Adjust Glutes" is unchecked, everything is left to sim, so no hiding, but only a transition effect.

 

[SlimerJSpud]

Only problem I found is solved by going to "Control Center" and first increase to some value and then reduce "Test Erection" slider to zero. After this, the Clothing Triggers work for the erection states.
This sometimes happens due to the sync of erection inputs between Control Center and Erection plugin.

Is this something you can fix in the erection plugin? When I tried using the UI of the clothing triggers to test both states, the erection plugin seemed to ignore the triggers.

 

[RunRudolf]

Is this something you can fix in the erection plugin? When I tried using the UI of the clothing triggers to test both states, the erection plugin seemed to ignore the triggers.

I think this will only happen if you use the test erection slider in the erection plugin UI and then switch away from the UI. So if you do not do this, there should be no such issue. Can you confirm this?

 

[SlimerJSpud]

I think this will only happen if you use the test erection slider in the erection plugin UI and then switch away from the UI. So if you do not do this, there should be no such issue. Can you confirm this?

In the scene file I posted above, if I just load up the scene and press Undress, the clothes come off, but the cock doesn't do anything. Sometimes, if I press Reset, and Undress again, it works. If I reload the scene, and use the slider in the erection Control Center, that slider may work, but the undress thing doesn't. In the Erection plugin, if I enable Test mode, and move the slider, then set it back to 0 and turn off Test mode, everything works. *Sometimes* the undress feature works after scene load *if* I wait about a minute. Sometimes the poor little thing just sits there.

I swear, sometimes I think Vam is just a big random number generator...

 

[RunRudolf]

In the scene file I posted above, if I just load up the scene and press Undress, the clothes come off, but the cock doesn't do anything. Sometimes, if I press Reset, and Undress again, it works. If I reload the scene, and use the slider in the erection Control Center, that slider may work, but the undress thing doesn't. In the Erection plugin, if I enable Test mode, and move the slider, then set it back to 0 and turn off Test mode, everything works. *Sometimes* the undress feature works after scene load *if* I wait about a minute. Sometimes the poor little thing just sits there.

I swear, sometimes I think Vam is just a big random number generator...

Yes, I also observed some very strange long loading time, it seems up, but isn't. I have never experienced such issue. I will investigate a bit more in the next few days and get back to you.

 

[SlimerJSpud]

Yes, I also observed some very strange long loading time, it seems up, but isn't. I have never experienced such issue. I will investigate a bit more in the next few days and get back to you.

Thanks for your effort. Appreciated.