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Awesome, I'll give it a shot and let you know how it goes!
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Post pictures!
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You can make it look like a strap on though, you can change the material colors.
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So i played around with this a bit. tring to convert some of my futa models to back to females to use with this plugin.
But unfortunately no matter what i try i cant get it to look seamless even with matching textures. Its just too obvious that its just a mesh clipping through other mesh.
I dont think there is a good solution for this without straight up somehow swapping the whole graft unfotunately
But unfortunately no matter what i try i cant get it to look seamless even with matching textures. Its just too obvious that its just a mesh clipping through other mesh.
I dont think there is a good solution for this without straight up somehow swapping the whole graft unfotunately
Did you try to do an alpha for a gradual transparency when the texture is near the borders of the mesh (of the man genital). the fadout can make the clipping less visible.So i played around with this a bit. tring to convert some of my futa models to back to females to use with this plugin.
But unfortunately no matter what i try i cant get it to look seamless even with matching textures. Its just too obvious that its just a mesh clipping through other mesh.
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I dont think there is a good solution for this without straight up somehow swapping the whole graft unfotunately
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This does not support transparency. And even if, i dont think that would be a good solution..
Stopper updated [Experimental] Alternative Futa with a new update entry:
Matching skin of previous model
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!> Compile of Stopper.AlternativeFuta.3:/Custom/Scripts/Stopper/AlternativeFuta/AlternativeFuta.cs failed. Errors:
!> [CS1061]: Type `DAZCharacterSelector' does not contain a definition for `RefreshRuntimeMorphs' and no extension method `RefreshRuntimeMorphs' of type `DAZCharacterSelector' could be found. Are you missing an assembly reference? in <Unknown> at [441, 21]
!> [CS]: Mono.CSharp.InternalErrorException: (386,15): Stopper.AlternativeFuta.SetUpMorphs() ---> Mono.CSharp.FatalException: Type `DAZCharacterSelector' does not contain a definition for `RefreshRuntimeMorphs' and no extension method `RefreshRuntimeMorphs' of type `DAZCharacterSelector' could be found. Are you missing an assembly reference?
at Mono.CSharp.Report.Error (Int32 code, Location loc, System.String error) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at Mono.CSharp.Report.Error (Int32 code, Location loc, System.String format, System.String[] args) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
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!> Compile of Stopper.AlternativeFuta.3:/Custom/Scripts/Stopper/AlternativeFuta/AlternativeFuta.cs failed. Errors:
!> [CS1061]: Type `DAZCharacterSelector' does not contain a definition for `RefreshRuntimeMorphs' and no extension method `RefreshRuntimeMorphs' of type `DAZCharacterSelector' could be found. Are you missing an assembly reference? in <Unknown> at [441, 21]
!> [CS]: Mono.CSharp.InternalErrorException: (386,15): Stopper.AlternativeFuta.SetUpMorphs() ---> Mono.CSharp.FatalException: Type `DAZCharacterSelector' does not contain a definition for `RefreshRuntimeMorphs' and no extension method `RefreshRuntimeMorphs' of type `DAZCharacterSelector' could be found. Are you missing an assembly reference?
at Mono.CSharp.Report.Error (Int32 code, Location loc, System.String error) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at Mono.CSharp.Report.Error (Int32 code, Location loc, System.String format, System.String[] args) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
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So i played around with this a bit. tring to convert some of my futa models to back to females to use with this plugin.
But unfortunately no matter what i try i cant get it to look seamless even with matching textures. Its just too obvious that its just a mesh clipping through other mesh.
I dont think there is a good solution for this without straight up somehow swapping the whole graft unfotunately
I've played around with showing the rest of the graft and there can still be a line. Here is what it looks like for Simone:
As TheDJin mentioned, transparency might be an option here, but I would need to change the shader. None of the built-in transparent shaders have tesselation mapping, though. I can add options to render the full graft as well as using a different shader so people can experiment with it.
Another thing to mention is that VAM's grafts have logic to 'pin' some graft verts to the base, and there's a weighing system that smooths out the boundary. You can see the effect of this when you apply the futa morphs to a male. At a later point I might go through the effort for mapping the verts needed to pin the edges of the penis.
It's also worth noting that my displacement morphs don't apply to the pelvis portion of the graft on female models. In my first picture, the entire pelvis should be dented like the male's. I don't know why this is, and I've spent a good bit of time looking into it.
Need the latest VAM that supports runtime reloading of morphs.
Stopper updated [Experimental] Alternative Futa with a new update entry:
Minor fix for tear-down
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Minor fix for tear-down
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Hi @Stopper sorry it's taken me so long, but I'm trying to use the plugin now and it is floating off her body. I tried looking for the morphs you mentioned to change position but they don't appear in my list. I assume I'm doing something wrong, just not sure what it is
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Also it seems to break the tittymagic plugin, or at least it starts throwing tons of errors about skin.
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Also Diving Foreskin plugin seems to work as diving rod but throws constant errors as well. Normal diving rod seems fine, and in my use case that's all I need, just thought I would pass it along.
Hi @Stopper sorry it's taken me so long, but I'm trying to use the plugin now and it is floating off her body. I tried looking for the morphs you mentioned to change position but they don't appear in my list. I assume I'm doing something wrong, just not sure what it is
Likely not your fault. It doesn't show them for some others either. Right now they're made at runtime, which isn't standard afaik. My plan is to move them to be normal morphs.
Interesting. Let me try these together.
Will take a look.
Thanks for all the feedback!
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Amazing, wasn't expecting something like this until VAM 2.x.
A quick workaround for mismatching textures I found, you can use decal maker to to make a quick halfway decent genital texture. load up the torso texture an edit it. flip it 180, scale x6 and move it down .208 so what was the belly button is at the bottom. the top of the texture should line up almost perfectly with the bottom of the torso texture when you export it and use it on the grafted penis
A quick workaround for mismatching textures I found, you can use decal maker to to make a quick halfway decent genital texture. load up the torso texture an edit it. flip it 180, scale x6 and move it down .208 so what was the belly button is at the bottom. the top of the texture should line up almost perfectly with the bottom of the torso texture when you export it and use it on the grafted penis
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I can't find any of the positioning morphs (altFuta etc etc) they just don't exist in male or female morphs. Is this something separate I need to go download and install? I looked inside the VAR - there's only a scripts folder - no morphs included.
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Thats weird it should be in the male morph section. no further installs are required just the var needed.
I was too lazy to learn how to make morphs so I just created them from the code. Since all the vertices and bones are moving in the same direction by the same amount, it seemed easier that way. I generally don't know what I'm doing so I must have fucked them up somehow, and they only show up for some and not others.
Everlaster suggested I use a morph merger to just save them to a file instead so that's my next plan. Just haven't had a chance to do it.
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Ah Bummer... yeah tried with a couple installs of VAM and they're just not there.
Some requests:
Hide the female gens / disable all the female genital physics etc. If you can do that, and get rid of the the genital seams somehow - this will be E P I C !! 1000% Amazing work!! You're bridging the gap none of us have been able to cross! Keep going!!!
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Maybe not completely remove it and add option to either enable or disable female genital as it will then have both option for people to go for either trans or Hermaphrodite according to their preferences.
A male-only mode has been a common ask, but it's blocked on me understanding more deeply how VAM grafts its meshes together. It's not straightforward, at least not to me, and I'm likely going to need to set up remote debugging before I make progress.
Simply replacing the female gens with male gens for the graft messes up the rest of the body's textures in ways I don't understand and haven't figured out how to fix.
Grafting both and hiding the female gens behaves a bit better, but one issue there that the penis mesh doesn't go around the entire pelvis. A lot of it also doesn't even render. Instead, it seems to be rendering the G2F's base mesh. My best guess it's got something to do with how the grafting code re-maps base vertices to UV vertices. There are also areas that aren't UV-mapped properly.
I've never worked with 3D graphics so I'm a little out of my element, but I'll keep experimenting with it. Anyone with more experience can feel free to dig into the code.
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Have you asked Meshed himself for some direction? He may be willing to help.
Hadn't considered that. What's a good way to reach out to him?
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Discord is best option i think.
