Plugins BodyLanguage

[maybe]

Hi!
Are the poses still present in the scene json? Simply search for "poses". If true, you can try reloading BL or extracting the poses from the scene json ("Extract"-tab).
Other than that, there is no backup stored anywhere.

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unfortunately not thanks anyway for the help!

 

[CheesyFX]

"poses" : [
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unfortunately not thanks anyway for the help!

I'm sorry for you
But how could this happen? A lot of stuff is going on when adding a character. but I think I took care of everything, and no one ever complained about loosing poses this (or another) way. Do you have the PluginSuite installed, so that the new person got its own instance of BL? Did you remove it? Did you change the new person to be a male?

 

[TheMontyBDSM]

ReadMyLips:
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But I suspect your issue is something else. BL does open the mouth only slightly, and never in "sudden jerks".

I than a relationed problem with BJ but I think there is an issue related to BJ, but I suspect it has nothing to do with your plugins... Maybe I need to adjust the BJ stats more since the female model's mouth I use is rather small and cute and the male models' penises tend to be a bit more big sized than the normal?
When I can, privately if possible (I'm on your Discord server, so I might as well stop bothering you here) I will send you images of the model's mouth, the size of the model's penis and a screenshot of the problem/explosion of colliders that occurs when performing the oral sex action.

 

[TheMontyBDSM]

"poses" : [
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unfortunately not thanks anyway for the help!

Sorry about that bro... It sucks to have lost all that work... If it helps, what I do is to prevent such misfortunes. I only use poses in PoseMe that I have previously saved as Custom Poses. From a previously made scene, I save the poses, use them on my characters, tweak them to fit what I want, and overwrite the file for that pose. Even if I lose the work in PoseMe, the poses are still saved in Custom/Atom/Person/Poses.

 

[CheesyFX]

Sorry about that bro... It sucks to have lost all that work... If it helps, what I do is to prevent such misfortunes. I only use poses in PoseMe that I have previously saved as Custom Poses. From a previously made scene, I save the poses, use them on my characters, tweak them to fit what I want, and overwrite the file for that pose. Even if I lose the work in PoseMe, the poses are still saved in Custom/Atom/Person/Poses.

You can as well export BL poses as standalone (Save Pose To Library). I'd recommend saving your work incrementally to 2-3 scene files though. If the newest file is broken/lost poses you can either use the older one or extract the poses from it.
That's what I do, but mostly because I'm always working on the script and scenes in parallel. Sometimes I fuck up the script so the scene saving is broken.
@maybe

 

[TheMontyBDSM]

I than a relationed problem with BJ but I think there is an issue related to BJ, but I suspect it has nothing to do with your plugins... Maybe I need to adjust the BJ stats more since the female model's mouth I use is rather small and cute and the male models' penises tend to be a bit more big sized than the normal?
When I can, privately if possible (I'm on your Discord server, so I might as well stop bothering you here) I will send you images of the model's mouth, the size of the model's penis and a screenshot of the problem/explosion of colliders that occurs when performing the oral sex action.

Problem solved, Cheesy. Research and experimentation, two great allies. I will still send you the screenshots of the mouth and the size of the male penis so you have some reference. Advice from a professional is always welcome.

 

[maybe]

I'm sorry for you
But how could this happen? A lot of stuff is going on when adding a character. but I think I took care of everything, and no one ever complained about loosing poses this (or another) way. Do you have the PluginSuite installed, so that the new person got its own instance of BL? Did you remove it? Did you change the new person to be a male?

yeah i did change the new person to a male

 

[CheesyFX]

Problem solved, Cheesy. Research and experimentation, two great allies. I will still send you the screenshots of the mouth and the size of the male penis so you have some reference. Advice from a professional is always welcome.

Well, I can't make a big dick fit into a very small mouth, unless she's a snake.

 

[TheMontyBDSM]

Well, I can't make a big dick fit into a very small mouth, unless she's a snake.

@CheesyFX That was a good one
Photo Context; From left to Right; 1,2,3,4 photo referencies: to give you an idea of the proportions mentioned above. Although with some morphs the mouth has opened wide. So it seems to me that this "thing" can be swallowed without too many problems.
5) Let me introduce you to Jessica Clearwater, a model based on the character from NoStage3 (Jane). I also retouched her face a bit, apart from the body, which I modified in different parts. In any case, Jane should be congratulated, she has given birth to a tremendous model! I saw Jane and his face was a inspiration.
06) And I also introduce you to Michael Drake. Michael was "born" from Lee's predefined model, I have been tweaking it to differentiate him from Lee, and make him someone unique.

 

[SortaLewd]

No issues on my side and you are the first reporting this. You must be provoking this error by doing weird things. Please explain in detail what you did in your scene and how to reproduce.

Late reply, but I also experience this in scenes containing handjobs. I have the session plugin so body language is added automatically and I've noticed this but just now managed to track it down to this. I don't do any editing to scenes, I just run them as they are so there's not tweaking or doing weird things on my end.


Edit: Also are there any recommended plugins to run with this or to avoid using alongside it? Scrolling through the pages I saw Divining Lips & Hands will clash, anyone else notice any other plugins that may be problematic or compliment?

 

[frighte]

Hey there. This suite has made things a lot easier for me when making scenes. But I cannot find a way to disable the penis bending when it goes down a throat. Is it even possible?

 

[CheesyFX]

Hey there. This suite has made things a lot easier for me when making scenes. But I cannot find a way to disable the penis bending when it goes down a throat. Is it even possible?

Hi, glad you like the plugin!
Do you want it to poke through the neck instead?

 

[TheMontyBDSM]

Cheesy: I have a doubt. In FillMeUp, in the help and tips inside the plugin, you make a recommendation to those who want to activate the "forces" remotely using triggers. For example, I am experimenting with UIToggle, and I am really satisfied with the results. But... Is it better to separate the forces of each part (Anus, Vagina, Throat, Hands, and Cleavage) in different triggers or have them all in one?

 

[CheesyFX]

Late reply, but I also experience this in scenes containing handjobs. I have the session plugin so body language is added automatically and I've noticed this but just now managed to track it down to this. I don't do any editing to scenes, I just run them as they are so there's not tweaking or doing weird things on my end.


Edit: Also are there any recommended plugins to run with this or to avoid using alongside it? Scrolling through the pages I saw Divining Lips & Hands will clash, anyone else notice any other plugins that may be problematic or compliment?

Your loaded scenes may do the weird things. Not ervery scene is meant to have BL on top of it, there can be bad interactions.
Again, I need some way to reproduce this issue if its caused by BL itself.

 

[CheesyFX]

Cheesy: I have a doubt. In FillMeUp, in the help and tips inside the plugin, you make a recommendation to those who want to activate the "forces" remotely using triggers. For example, I am experimenting with UIToggle, and I am really satisfied with the results. But... Is it better to separate the forces of each part (Anus, Vagina, Throat, Hands, and Cleavage) in different triggers or have them all in one?

I can't answer this. It purely depends on what you want the toggle to do.

Anyways, I'm not a fan of UIToggles and sliders to control the scene as it breaks immersion. I'd just enjoy the randomization.

 

[SortaLewd]

Your loaded scenes may do the weird things. Not ervery scene is meant to have BL on top of it, there can be bad interactions.
Again, I need some way to reproduce this issue if its caused by BL itself.

For the arm twist thing, any of sxs4's scenes involving a handjob for example can trigger it, doesn't always happen but does happen often. It could just be bad scene interactions as you said. I run your ChessyPluginSuite session plugin and thought since it was a session plugin automatically adding ShakeIt and BodyLanguage, they were supposed to play nice with everything.

 

[frighte]

Hi, glad you like the plugin!
Do you want it to poke through the neck instead?

i dont use male models where that would be a problem.

 

[CheesyFX]

For the arm twist thing, any of sxs4's scenes involving a handjob for example can trigger it, doesn't always happen but does happen often. It could just be bad scene interactions as you said. I run your ChessyPluginSuite session plugin and thought since it was a session plugin automatically adding ShakeIt and BodyLanguage, they were supposed to play nice with everything.

Lol, ShakeIt does, but BL definitely not. I thought it would be self explanatory that adding a force driven handjob or thrust animation on top of timeline one might not look so good... You have to disable the forces (CTRL+F) and the hand magnet and probably more to not interfere with timeline scenes.

But the real question is, what do you want BL for if the scene is already "complete", with timeline movements, expressions, VAMMoan etc. At one point I gave up trying to not interfere with any existing scene by default. Now BL is primarily meant as an alternative to timeline scenes, providing automated levels variation timeline could never achieve. Plus it makes creating scenes a lot easier with one-click caressing & slapping etc.

 

[CheesyFX]

i dont use male models where that would be a problem.

What? Your females don't have a neck? Are you hiding everything except the head, lol, fucking it with a dildo?

Anyways, no, there is no option to disable the bending. I see no reason why one could not want to have that feature. And your explanations are somewhat lacking to me, sorry.

 

[frighte]

What? Your females don't have a neck? Are you hiding everything except the head, lol, fucking it with a dildo?

Anyways, no, there is no option to disable the bending. I see no reason why one could not want to have that feature. And your explanations are somewhat lacking to me, sorry.

just wondering. anyway the reason is because a lot of the time it pokes out from the bottom of the jaw instead of going down the neck.

 

[CheesyFX]

just wondering. anyway the reason is because a lot of the time it pokes out from the bottom of the jaw instead of going down the neck.

Now we're talking... Why didn't you say that in the first place?
Is your models jaw exceptionally long, like the one of a horse, maybe?

 

[frighte]

Now we're talking... Why didn't you say that in the first place?
Is your models jaw exceptionally long, like the one of a horse, maybe?

nope just regular non janky heads and faces. i think that the intended path is not followed if the penis length morph is set under 1.0. it can be seen with the xray on. But you answered my question. i can just continue working around it.

 

[SortaLewd]

Lol, ShakeIt does, but BL definitely not. I thought it would be self explanatory that adding a force driven handjob or thrust animation on top of timeline one might not look so good... You have to disable the forces (CTRL+F) and the hand magnet and probably more to not interfere with timeline scenes.

But the real question is, what do you want BL for if the scene is already "complete", with timeline movements, expressions, VAMMoan etc. At one point I gave up trying to not interfere with any existing scene by default. Now BL is primarily meant as an alternative to timeline scenes, providing automated levels variation timeline could never achieve. Plus it makes creating scenes a lot easier with one-click caressing & slapping etc.

Ah that makes more sense, with features like xray, random orgasms, and ahegao, I thought BodyLanguage was a plugin to add more life to scenes versus being an alternative to scenes made with timeline. From what I've seen, not many creators using timeline go the extra mile of adding little details like facial animations or orgasms and whatnot, so I thought that was where Body Language came in to fill the gaps. I'll try messing with hand magnet and forces like suggested.