Plugins BodyLanguage

[TheMontyBDSM]

Well, I can't make a big dick fit into a very small mouth, unless she's a snake.

@CheesyFX That was a good one
Photo Context; From left to Right; 1,2,3,4 photo referencies: to give you an idea of the proportions mentioned above. Although with some morphs the mouth has opened wide. So it seems to me that this "thing" can be swallowed without too many problems.
5) Let me introduce you to Jessica Clearwater, a model based on the character from NoStage3 (Jane). I also retouched her face a bit, apart from the body, which I modified in different parts. In any case, Jane should be congratulated, she has given birth to a tremendous model! I saw Jane and his face was a inspiration.
06) And I also introduce you to Michael Drake. Michael was "born" from Lee's predefined model, I have been tweaking it to differentiate him from Lee, and make him someone unique.

 

[SortaLewd]

No issues on my side and you are the first reporting this. You must be provoking this error by doing weird things. Please explain in detail what you did in your scene and how to reproduce.

Late reply, but I also experience this in scenes containing handjobs. I have the session plugin so body language is added automatically and I've noticed this but just now managed to track it down to this. I don't do any editing to scenes, I just run them as they are so there's not tweaking or doing weird things on my end.


Edit: Also are there any recommended plugins to run with this or to avoid using alongside it? Scrolling through the pages I saw Divining Lips & Hands will clash, anyone else notice any other plugins that may be problematic or compliment?

 

[frighte]

Hey there. This suite has made things a lot easier for me when making scenes. But I cannot find a way to disable the penis bending when it goes down a throat. Is it even possible?

 

[CheesyFX]

Hey there. This suite has made things a lot easier for me when making scenes. But I cannot find a way to disable the penis bending when it goes down a throat. Is it even possible?

Hi, glad you like the plugin!
Do you want it to poke through the neck instead?

 

[TheMontyBDSM]

Cheesy: I have a doubt. In FillMeUp, in the help and tips inside the plugin, you make a recommendation to those who want to activate the "forces" remotely using triggers. For example, I am experimenting with UIToggle, and I am really satisfied with the results. But... Is it better to separate the forces of each part (Anus, Vagina, Throat, Hands, and Cleavage) in different triggers or have them all in one?

 

[CheesyFX]

Late reply, but I also experience this in scenes containing handjobs. I have the session plugin so body language is added automatically and I've noticed this but just now managed to track it down to this. I don't do any editing to scenes, I just run them as they are so there's not tweaking or doing weird things on my end.


Edit: Also are there any recommended plugins to run with this or to avoid using alongside it? Scrolling through the pages I saw Divining Lips & Hands will clash, anyone else notice any other plugins that may be problematic or compliment?

Your loaded scenes may do the weird things. Not ervery scene is meant to have BL on top of it, there can be bad interactions.
Again, I need some way to reproduce this issue if its caused by BL itself.

 

[CheesyFX]

Cheesy: I have a doubt. In FillMeUp, in the help and tips inside the plugin, you make a recommendation to those who want to activate the "forces" remotely using triggers. For example, I am experimenting with UIToggle, and I am really satisfied with the results. But... Is it better to separate the forces of each part (Anus, Vagina, Throat, Hands, and Cleavage) in different triggers or have them all in one?

I can't answer this. It purely depends on what you want the toggle to do.

Anyways, I'm not a fan of UIToggles and sliders to control the scene as it breaks immersion. I'd just enjoy the randomization.

 

[SortaLewd]

Your loaded scenes may do the weird things. Not ervery scene is meant to have BL on top of it, there can be bad interactions.
Again, I need some way to reproduce this issue if its caused by BL itself.

For the arm twist thing, any of sxs4's scenes involving a handjob for example can trigger it, doesn't always happen but does happen often. It could just be bad scene interactions as you said. I run your ChessyPluginSuite session plugin and thought since it was a session plugin automatically adding ShakeIt and BodyLanguage, they were supposed to play nice with everything.

 

[frighte]

Hi, glad you like the plugin!
Do you want it to poke through the neck instead?

i dont use male models where that would be a problem.

 

[CheesyFX]

For the arm twist thing, any of sxs4's scenes involving a handjob for example can trigger it, doesn't always happen but does happen often. It could just be bad scene interactions as you said. I run your ChessyPluginSuite session plugin and thought since it was a session plugin automatically adding ShakeIt and BodyLanguage, they were supposed to play nice with everything.

Lol, ShakeIt does, but BL definitely not. I thought it would be self explanatory that adding a force driven handjob or thrust animation on top of timeline one might not look so good... You have to disable the forces (CTRL+F) and the hand magnet and probably more to not interfere with timeline scenes.

But the real question is, what do you want BL for if the scene is already "complete", with timeline movements, expressions, VAMMoan etc. At one point I gave up trying to not interfere with any existing scene by default. Now BL is primarily meant as an alternative to timeline scenes, providing automated levels variation timeline could never achieve. Plus it makes creating scenes a lot easier with one-click caressing & slapping etc.

 

[CheesyFX]

i dont use male models where that would be a problem.

What? Your females don't have a neck? Are you hiding everything except the head, lol, fucking it with a dildo?

Anyways, no, there is no option to disable the bending. I see no reason why one could not want to have that feature. And your explanations are somewhat lacking to me, sorry.

 

[frighte]

What? Your females don't have a neck? Are you hiding everything except the head, lol, fucking it with a dildo?

Anyways, no, there is no option to disable the bending. I see no reason why one could not want to have that feature. And your explanations are somewhat lacking to me, sorry.

just wondering. anyway the reason is because a lot of the time it pokes out from the bottom of the jaw instead of going down the neck.

 

[CheesyFX]

just wondering. anyway the reason is because a lot of the time it pokes out from the bottom of the jaw instead of going down the neck.

Now we're talking... Why didn't you say that in the first place?
Is your models jaw exceptionally long, like the one of a horse, maybe?

 

[frighte]

Now we're talking... Why didn't you say that in the first place?
Is your models jaw exceptionally long, like the one of a horse, maybe?

nope just regular non janky heads and faces. i think that the intended path is not followed if the penis length morph is set under 1.0. it can be seen with the xray on. But you answered my question. i can just continue working around it.

 

[SortaLewd]

Lol, ShakeIt does, but BL definitely not. I thought it would be self explanatory that adding a force driven handjob or thrust animation on top of timeline one might not look so good... You have to disable the forces (CTRL+F) and the hand magnet and probably more to not interfere with timeline scenes.

But the real question is, what do you want BL for if the scene is already "complete", with timeline movements, expressions, VAMMoan etc. At one point I gave up trying to not interfere with any existing scene by default. Now BL is primarily meant as an alternative to timeline scenes, providing automated levels variation timeline could never achieve. Plus it makes creating scenes a lot easier with one-click caressing & slapping etc.

Ah that makes more sense, with features like xray, random orgasms, and ahegao, I thought BodyLanguage was a plugin to add more life to scenes versus being an alternative to scenes made with timeline. From what I've seen, not many creators using timeline go the extra mile of adding little details like facial animations or orgasms and whatnot, so I thought that was where Body Language came in to fill the gaps. I'll try messing with hand magnet and forces like suggested.

 

[wadewand]

Great plugin ! Though I am mostly for the model you use, you said it's estel with tan and makeup, but I would really like to have your preset ! thanks

 

[SlimerJSpud]

If you like a good tease, here's a fun way to do one in BL. Freeze the motion. Position your girl for a HJ, but with her mouth a short distance from the tip. Enable the hand and throat forces. I disable the roll torque to prevent alignment issues. I also dial the forces back some so the hand and head don't fight. Unfreeze the scene, and the HJ action will start. Her head will move around seeking the cock, and she'll eventually move in on it to torture the tip. If the tip pops out, that's OK, it just adds to the tease. Fun!

The girl is Jumper by @AlienAxeMan The scene is the Gruntled Apartment scene.

 

[CheesyFX]

If you like a good tease, here's a fun way to do one in BL. Freeze the motion. Position your girl for a HJ, but with her mouth a short distance from the tip. Enable the hand and throat forces. I disable the roll torque to prevent alignment issues. I also dial the forces back some so the hand and head don't fight. Unfreeze the scene, and the HJ action will start. Her head will move around seeking the cock, and she'll eventually move in on it to torture the tip. If the tip pops out, that's OK, it just adds to the tease. Fun!


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The girl is Jumper by @AlienAxeMan The scene is the Gruntled Apartment scene.

Yeah, you can also do this during a titjob with her head tilted down and a long cock! But it's a bit more difficult to get going.

 

[Laudatio]

This is about BL FillmeUp and ReadMyLips in combination with a Dildo Atom.

As you can see, the Dildo moves through the trigger of the Cleavage FillMeup part. No I will move the Dildo south, and it will directly increase the stimulation slider (projecting the ReadMyLips Stimulation value on the back of the bed) in an extremely multiplied addition to stimulation in reference to the Depth slider of the Cleavage Area. But not always when then Dildo moves south or north through it.

The odd effect is that if I would move it back up now, it would move back the stimulation value back- so when the Dildo cycles through the movement (based on the driver and forces) it basically moves the stimulation value up and down. I already tried troubleshooting all other plugin on and off, tested it on another character model and another atom, too. The value of how much the sliding is affected is linked to the Sensitifiy value of the Cleavage in the FMU.

EDIT: Just noticed how this appears when increasing the sensitivity of the Hands in BL FMU above 0 as well.

I would appreciate any suggestions. It can be turned off be setting the sensitivity of Cleavage to 0. So it's not a huge problem.

 

[CheesyFX]

This is about BL FillmeUp and ReadMyLips in combination with a Dildo Atom.
View attachment 431838As you can see, the Dildo moves through the trigger of the Cleavage FillMeup part. No I will move the Dildo south, and it will directly increase the stimulation slider (projecting the ReadMyLips Stimulation value on the back of the bed) in an extremely multiplied addition to stimulation in reference to the Depth slider of the Cleavage Area. But not always when then Dildo moves south or north through it.
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The odd effect is that if I would move it back up now, it would move back the stimulation value back- so when the Dildo cycles through the movement (based on the driver and forces) it basically moves the stimulation value up and down. I already tried troubleshooting all other plugin on and off, tested it on another character model and another atom, too. The value of how much the sliding is affected is linked to the Sensitifiy value of the Cleavage in the FMU.

EDIT: Just noticed how this appears when increasing the sensitivity of the Hands in BL FMU above 0 as well.

I would appreciate any suggestions. It can be turned off be setting the sensitivity of Cleavage to 0. So it's not a huge problem.

You seem to have changed a lot of the defaults, like the cleavage proximity height etc. For bug reports it is better to stick as close to the defaults as possible, so that I know where to look at. Sensitivity should be really low, especially for the cleavage and hands, which pleasure the penetrator in the first place.
But yeah, the stim should not go up and down with the movement. I forgot to take the absolute value of the speed for the hand and cleavage. So negative values reduce the stim. This will be fixed.

Now that I think of it, I might add a toggle for each fuckable to decide whether the female can cum from stimuli originating from that fuckable. So the she can get horny from HJ and TJ but orgasming is not allowed.

 

[Battletoad08]

@CheesyFX

It's time, its time to share the model lol.

 

[CoolyCafe]

You are missing some ass colliders on your model. Please try in the default scene. Renaming has nothing to do with this, especially if you loaded BL after renaming.

I have this same issue. Models constantly looking down. Is there a fix for multiple scenes?

 

[CheesyFX]

I have this same issue. Models constantly looking down. Is there a fix for multiple scenes?

In v71 all models have to be "On" and advanced colliders have to be enabled on males on plugin load.

 

[CoolyCafe]

In v71 all models have to be "On" and advanced colliders have to be enabled on males on plugin load.

Thankyou very much. Just tried it on a scene and it was the adv collider on the male. Works like a treat.

 

[SlimerJSpud]

I found something interesting with hand control and BL. First off, the R/L labels in the atom Hand Control tab are reversed, which is confusing. The two states of interest in the finger control mode settings are Morphs, and JSONParams. Morphs is the default. When BL detects a HJ pose, and the action is enabled, that hand switches to JSON mode, and the regular finger pose morphs like grasp no longer work. That makes sense, because the active hand is supposed to be under BL control. The problem is, if both hands end up in JSON mode, then you can't pose the fingers on the inactive hand properly. I downloaded a complex BL scene with lots of poses. Some had HJ on the right, some left. Somehow both hands ended up in JSON mode, and the inactive hand wouldn't let me pose the fingers. Just FYI.