VAM 2.0

[SlimerJSpud]

I'm a retired engineer who spent many years working with different types of engineering software. As it was frequently pointed out in that business, there's a big difference between port and support. Every now and then, some customer company would come along and say, "You have to port to our XYZ platform." After the laughter died down, the reality set in that there was no business case to be made there. The only engineering design software I'm aware of that was ported to Mac was done for Apple. Both companies later realized it was a mistake and moved on. The real software Apple needed to use to design chips ran on Linux.

Yes, there's somebody here who has a thread about running Vam on Mac, there's another for Linux. In both cases, these are quixotic exercises done by somebody determined to be able to say they did it. Does that make it a viable business decision? No. See above...

 

[FredWright]

VAM has been around for years. I think the initial first version was 2017. I can't count the number of people that have agitated the "one day you will have competitors" argument : )
We're 7 years later, no one has came up with a serious contender to VAM, either technologically wise or content wise with the huge community it has.

As for Youtube content, that's not the media you should look for VAM content. It's a porn game. Youtube does not like that.
You have plenty of video content for VAM 1 on the hub, and for VAM 2 there is pretty much nothing to show for now. Meshed is not gonna produce videos just for the sake of doing videos if there's nothing important to show off.

I'm not gonna spend time on the MacOS argument again. This has been discussed everywhere on the internet and the urban legend about Mac's being more powerful than PCs always makes me laugh. Mac is not a gaming plateform, it never wil

 

[FredWright]

I use Mac and Windows and I see the comparison, so I know what I'm talking about. It's not because there hasn't been a competitor for 7 years that it will never happen, especially with AI. You have an oversized ego to talk to people like that. Don't forget that we are your customers. Since you don't want to understand and you are stubborn as a mule, for me the subject is closed. ^^

 

[hazmhox]

I use Mac and Windows and I see the comparison, so I know what I'm talking about. It's not because there hasn't been a competitor for 7 years that it will never happen, especially with AI. You have an oversized ego to talk to people like that. Don't forget that we are your customers. Since you don't want to understand and you are stubborn as a mule, for me the subject is closed. ^^

I don't see where ego comes from when I'm simply stating facts : )
Also, if you know what you're talking about. Consider that your interlocutor might also know too... I'm not your rando-internet know-it-all, I either just don't participate/answer if I don't have the knowledge, or make nuanced arguments or suggestions if I'm not an expert in that field.

It's funny how internet is... always falling down to assuming who the person they're talking to is after three posts when you don't tally with the initial argument. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Side note: I'm a VAM contributor and creator. I don't speak on behalf of meshed or the product itself.

Side note 2: someone not agreeing with you is not by essence stubborn or does not want to understand you. They understand... they're just not agreeing with you.

 

[zqwvc1419]

I use Mac and Windows and I see the comparison, so I know what I'm talking about. It's not because there hasn't been a competitor for 7 years that it will never happen, especially with AI. You have an oversized ego to talk to people like that. Don't forget that we are your customers. Since you don't want to understand and you are stubborn as a mule, for me the subject is closed. ^^

Dude, let me show you something.

Spoiler: Look~

I have already uploaded the character model transformation and will be able to download it later.

Vam is still quite fun. VaM2 is more powerful and faster.

Vam2 has more functions and runs faster.

This is certain.

 

[FredWright]

Dude, let me show you something.

Spoiler: Look~

View attachment 436857

I have already uploaded the character model transformation and will be able to download it later.

Vam is still quite fun. VaM2 is more powerful and faster.

Vam2 has more functions and runs faster.

This is certain.

Hi. I downloaded all the files on patreon but I don't see Vam2 written but VAM: 1.22.03 and Vamx 1.41 but not Vam2.

 

[zqwvc1419]

Hi. I downloaded all the files on patreon but I don't see Vam2 written but VAM: 1.22.03 and Vamx 1.41 but not Vam2.

Vam2 has a test version, but the functions are not perfect. All we can do now is to continue to wait Vam2 official version and play Vam1.
The reason why Vam2 runs faster is that its code is converted into C++ code, while Vam1's code is C# code, C# code -> IL code -> machine code. And C++ code -> machine code, one step at a time.

 

[FredWright]

Vam2 has a test version, but the functions are not perfect. All we can do now is to continue to wait Vam2 official version and play Vam1.
The reason why Vam2 runs faster is that its code is converted into C++ code, while Vam1's code is C# code, C# code -> IL code -> machine code. And C++ code -> machine code, one step at a time.

ok but where is the download Vam2 test ? I have paid on patréon 10 dollars but its only VAM: 1.22.03 and Vamx 1.41 and not Vam2.

 

[hazmhox]

ok but where is the download Vam2 test ? I have paid on patréon 10 dollars but its only VAM: 1.22.03 and Vamx 1.41 and not Vam2.

Here : https://www.patreon.com/posts/vam2-tech-alpha-67678600

The reason why Vam2 runs faster is that its code is converted into C++ code, while Vam1's code is C# code, C# code -> IL code -> machine code. And C++ code -> machine code, one step at a time.

I think you might be mistaken for another VAM haha.

Please, ensure your informations are valid and source them (link to post/information) when you talk about VAM or VAM 2 especially as it is an unreleased product and could create expectations that are incorrect/biased/untrue. Unity runs on C#.

 

[FredWright]

Here : https://www.patreon.com/posts/vam2-tech-alpha-67678600




I think you might be mistaken for another VAM haha.

Please, ensure your informations are valid and source them (link to post/information) when you talk about VAM or VAM 2 especially as it is an unreleased product and could create expectations that are incorrect/biased/untrue. Unity runs on C#.

actually I think I was wrong, I took the subscription on the Wamx patreon and but on Meshedvr afre lol

 

[hazmhox]

Ha yeah, they're not the same products

 

[FredWright]

Ha yeah, they're not the same products

ok, I go take out a subscription on the Meshed Vr patreon for testing Vam2 lol

 

[FredWright]

actually I think I was wrong, I took the subscription on the Wamx patreon and but on Meshedvr afre lol

thanks for the link ^^