Need help with the penis - teeth collision during entering and exiting the mouth

[MaryJane]

Hi,

I am experiementing with Timleline and I need help for the blowjob scene.
The penis got stucked like a dowel wall plug after entering with a lot of force.
I identified the problem, it caused from the upper and lower teeth.
In the Collider Editor I could only found and modified the lower teeth.
But for the upper teeth I couldn't found any colliders.
Does someone have the same issues and found a solution?

Best regards
MJ

 

[MaryJane]

After some analysis found several problems:

• my CPU is to slow for physics
  • possible solution: disable High Quality Physics
    drawback: penis looks weird some times during bj
  • possible solution: upgrade CPU
    drawback: VAM not supporting multicore Physics, have to wait for VAM 2
• model specific: my models have all longer front teeth
  • possible solution: edit in blender or in Zbrush
    drawback: biting no longer realistic
  • possible solution: editing the collider but at the moment only works for lower teeth
    drawback: looks sometime not so good
• plugin specific: I am using Stopper's Penis Head Mesh Collider but the shape auf the penis glans works like a dovel wall plug in bj and anal scenes
  • possible solution: ask Stopper for add an option to flattening the penis glans back part
    See: https://hub.virtamate.com/threads/penis-head-mesh-collider.45135/post-169481

I have to fix all the problem first and try again.

Best regards
MJ

 

[murn]

After some analysis found several problems:

• my CPU is to slow for physics
  • possible solution: disable High Quality Physics
    drawback: penis looks weird some times during bj
  • possible solution: upgrade CPU
    drawback: VAM not supporting multicore Physics, have to wait for VAM 2
• model specific: my models have all longer front teeth
  • possible solution: edit in blender or in Zbrush
    drawback: biting no longer realistic
  • possible solution: editing the collider but at the moment only works for lower teeth
    drawback: looks sometime not so good
• plugin specific: I am using Stopper's Penis Head Mesh Collider but the shape auf the penis glans works like a dovel in bj and anal scenes
  • possible solution: ask Stopper for add an option to flattening the penis glans back part
    See: https://hub.virtamate.com/threads/penis-head-mesh-collider.45135/post-169481

I have to fix all the problem first and try again.

Best regards
MJ

I think you should leave high quality physics on and just turn off soft body physics and make the penis smaller if it's causing any problems in your scenes. There are teeth morphs from kemenate and vectorr's universal collection that could raise the height of the teeth or something (Check vectorr's parteon for the morph pack). I don't know what a dovel is or what it does/do so I'm giving my best suggestions. Good luck waiting on VAM 2, half life 3 might come out before that.

 

[MaryJane]

I think you should leave high quality physics on and just turn off soft body physics and make the penis smaller if it's causing any problems in your scenes.

I will try the soft body physics.

There are teeth morphs from kemenate and vectorr's universal collection that could raise the height of the teeth or something (Check vectorr's parteon for the morph pack).

I tried all available morph but nothing helped.

I don't know what a dovel is or what it does/do so I'm giving my best suggestions.

dowel or wall plug, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artur_Fischer#/media/File:Pluggen_4-14_mm.png

Best regard
MJ

 

[MaryJane]

Made a short example of the problem.
No collider or morph optimization, High Quality Physics and Soft Body Physics are on.
Plugins Penis Head Mesh Collider, Timeline and Glance.

Best regards
MJ

 

[DTB247]

there are morphs that raise/ lower upper and lower teeth. if you click the favorite button for those morphs they can be added to timeline animation. and then adjusted as part of your animation. you might try the open mouth morph too.

 

[murn]

It can't even fit in her mouth...joke aside.
https://hub.virtamate.com/resources/requested-collider-editor-preset.13252/
DTB247 Has a collider preset that I think that was made just for this .
Kemenate morphs
https://hub.virtamate.com/threads/unisex-morphs.248/#post-1506
For vecterror's morphs you'll have to scroll through their patreon or reach out for a link.
https://www.patreon.com/vecterror
This thread you should take a read of, it a collider discussion so there should be some tips in there too..
https://hub.virtamate.com/threads/how-to-insert-huge-penis-object.13051/

 

[MaryJane]

Thanks for your replies.

there are morphs that raise/ lower upper and lower teeth. if you click the favorite button for those morphs they can be added to timeline animation. and then adjusted as part of your animation. you might try the open mouth morph too.

Already did that. But the problem is the same.

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hub.virtamate.com

It is not for the mouth.
I tried this one, but the tounge collider has to be disabled:

Other - All The Way Through - Collider Editor Preset

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[MaryJane]

I added some mouth morphs in Timeline and edited some colliders.
But have the same problem, see timestamp 0:11s to 0:13s.

Copy to "Saves\scene":

• MaryJane.BJ_TeethCollision.json
• MaryJane.BJ_TeethCollision_optimized.json

Rename it without ".json" at the end and copy to "Saves\PluginData\ColliderEditor":

• MaryJane.BJ_TeethCollision_optimized.colliders

Best regards
MJ

 

[DTB247]

Have you tried reducing size of penis collider and moving so that surface lines up with side of penis pov is focused on? That way it will clip thru mouth on the side your not viewing

 

[MaryJane]

Thx this worked perfect.

Copy to "Saves\scene":

• MaryJane.BJ_TeethCollision_optimized_final.json

Don't forget the collider.


Best Regards
MJ