Question Why are my poses not being saved in my scene?

[NearlyComatose]

After years of messing around with VAM on a superficial level I've finally started to create my own complex scene. I started with an empty scene and added a room, some props, and some lighting. Then I added three person atoms and loaded some general presets onto them that I have developed over the years. Finally , I added the usual plugins to each atom (Timeline, Life, Titty magic, Booty Magic). Everything fine so far. But now I am posing my characters in some simple way in order to get started with the animations, but when I save the scene and reload it, the characters go back to the original poses that they had prior to me positioning them. I can save the poses as presets and then successfully load them onto my characters each time after I load the scene, but I should not have to do this. I did have a Heelz fix plugin loaded that was giving me grief with the foot positioning, and so I disabled that, but it did not help. Any help on this issue will be appreciated. Thanks.

 

[atani]

The position of atoms is kept as when you last saved the scene unless there's something overriding that behaviour.
Try making a very simple scene by adding a person, position it in a different way, save the scene and load it.

 

[NearlyComatose]

The position of atoms is kept as when you last saved the scene unless there's something overriding that behaviour.
Try making a very simple scene by adding a person, position it in a different way, save the scene and load it.

OK that is a good idea, I'll give that I try. I have made simple scenes in the past with one or two person atoms that did retain their poses, but I haven't tried a simple scene in a while.

 

[atani]

If it all works fine in that scene then there's nothing wrong with core VaM and it's something in your bigger scene creating the problem.

 

[NearlyComatose]

So I figured this out. Thanks atani for stimulating my thinking. I had added several plugins, including AcidBubble's Timeline, to each of the three characters. I had not opened any of the Timeline configurations yet. On a hunch I went in and looked at each of the configurations, and the two characters that were giving me issues had all of their controllers added to a 2sec. Animation1 with only a set of start and end keyframes. So the pose was being applied by Timeline each time I loaded the scene/plugin. I don't know how those poses got saved in Timeline because I had never opened the Timeline configurations, but that was the issue. It could have been something with the way that I loaded the "general" presets I suppose. I deleted all animations and the problem is fixed.