Hardware - do I need to upgrade my computer or get a new one

[assfan]

Hello all,

Could I please get some advice from those of you are are knowledgeable about hardware? I think my computer might not be enough for most of VAM... a lot of the scenes run slowly and the ones with more than two people are almost unusable. My Specs:

CyberPower PC
AMD Ryzen 5 1400 Quad-Core - 3.20Ghz
32GB RAM
Radeon RX-580

Do I need to upgrade memory or graphics card, or get a whole new system? Any advice is appreciated.

-Glenn K

 

[HolySchmidt]

32Gb is more than enough.

Your CPU is, unfortunately, outdated. You may play a lot of games with, lets say, medium settings in FullHD with good FPS. But 4 cores is not that good today. 8 is the sweet spot right now. Nonetheless, VaM 1.x is only using one(!) core. Meaning, the more single core clock speed, the better. Will be changed with VaM 2.x which is announced but no one knows when it will come (maybe only meshedVR + team).

Your GPU is okay but no performance monster. Of course it could be better, if you wanna have better graphics. The question is: will you have more FPS out of it without a new CPU? Probably not.

So yeah, better system would be good for your performance. How good with VaM 1.x, hard to say. VaM is optimized badly so you won't get high framerates this or that way.
If you would have searched for "hardware", you would have found this:

https://hub.virtamate.com/threads/what-would-be-the-pc-requirement-for-the-future-vam-2-x.10965/
https://hub.virtamate.com/threads/hardware-recommendations.10247/
https://hub.virtamate.com/threads/w...0s-then-to-5800x-with-3070-to-a-3080-ti.9883/
https://hub.virtamate.com/threads/w...rson-atom-1-cua-and-your-computer-spec.10006/

Questions?
Welcome!

 

[TToby]

My answer would be: No.

I have used VaM with a much older system (4 cores) for years and it was somewhat OK. You have to learn how to avoid or edit performance critical scenes with many lights and unoptimized stuff, and things like this, but at least you can have a lot of fun even without buying a new PC.
Unfortunately VaM is very performance demanding and at the same time very unoptimized.
Even with a new PC you will IMHO not see big jumps in quality or usability! You just can use some more lights and/or persons in one scene, or maybe use a bit higher supersampling in VR.
At the moment, the hardware market is still out of control. The prices are insane. A very bad moment to buy a new PC and, like ever, waiting a bit would even be the chance to buy a new generation of hardware.
VaM 2.0 will be much better optimized and would maybe run somewhat well with your PC, but unfortunately it won't be ready soon.
The decision is completely up to you! My advice would be: give it a try first. If you have the money and despreately want this, why not?
Maybe you want to read read through all the threads (and more!) listed by HolySchmidt

 

[assfan]

32Gb is more than enough.

Your CPU is, unfortunately, outdated. You may play a lot of games with, lets say, medium settings in FullHD with good FPS. But 4 cores is not that good today. 8 is the sweet spot right now. Nonetheless, VaM 1.x is only using one(!) core. Meaning, the more single core clock speed, the better. Will be changed with VaM 2.x which is announced but no one knows when it will come (maybe only meshedVR + team).

Your GPU is okay but no performance monster. Of course it could be better, if you wanna have better graphics. The question is: will you have more FPS out of it without a new CPU? Probably not.

So yeah, better system would be good for your performance. How good with VaM 1.x, hard to say. VaM is optimized badly so you won't get high framerates this or that way.
If you would have searched for "hardware", you would have found this:

https://hub.virtamate.com/threads/what-would-be-the-pc-requirement-for-the-future-vam-2-x.10965/
https://hub.virtamate.com/threads/hardware-recommendations.10247/
https://hub.virtamate.com/threads/w...0s-then-to-5800x-with-3070-to-a-3080-ti.9883/
https://hub.virtamate.com/threads/w...rson-atom-1-cua-and-your-computer-spec.10006/

Questions?
Welcome!

Thank you for the advice and for the links HolySchmidt - I appreciate it - I probably should have searched for hardware first. I will read those posts . Very helpful info!

 

[assfan]

My answer would be: No.

I have used VaM with a much older system (4 cores) for years and it was somewhat OK. You have to learn how to avoid or edit performance critical scenes with many lights and unoptimized stuff, and things like this, but at least you can have a lot of fun even without buying a new PC.
Unfortunately VaM is very performance demanding and at the same time very unoptimized.
Even with a new PC you will IMHO not see big jumps in quality or usability! You just can use some more lights and/or persons in one scene, or maybe use a bit higher supersampling in VR.
At the moment, the hardware market is still out of control. The prices are insane. A very bad moment to buy a new PC and, like ever, waiting a bit would even be the chance to buy a new generation of hardware.
VaM 2.0 will be much better optimized and would maybe run somewhat well with your PC, but unfortunately it won't be ready soon.
The decision is completely up to you! My advice would be: give it a try first. If you have the money and despreately want this, why not?
Maybe you want to read read through all the threads (and more!) listed by HolySchmidt

Thanks for your advice Ttoby - Good info!

 

[LooksHunter]

Yeah we have talked hardware gains excessively here and the conclusion is well it's very mild. If you can run it right now you are not missing that much, and still have to use optimisation tricks even on a very high end rig. As long as you can load a scene and have workable FPS you are good to go.

 

[keycode]

I could buy in november last year a NEW good rtx3070 at (relatively) honest price (less than 900 euros for a MSI suprim). The rest of my pc parts? I could see Intel, Corsair, Samsung, Kingston ..all at standard cost or I should say, at normal honest price. So, even considering the graphic cards actual crazy shortage problem (but the solution should be to find a very good used rtx20xx for instance), to upgrade your hardware it is NOT a bad idea... because using the actual "unoptimized" VAM (or even any other program) it will be IMHO absolutely worth.
Just ignore top "high end" components... because as they told you, that would be really a total (ridiculous?) waste of money. As it was since always.