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VaM 1.x DLSS 5 in VAM2
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Threads regarding the original VaM 1.x
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I was shocked by the Showcase from Nvidia since I watched the presentation Online just like you and a bit curious what the Team here at Vam think.
1. Faces are like early Stable Diffusion models. if you make 100 of them 98 will have the same nose eye and mouth structures where it looks like the same person. Control of the severity of the AI generation model and maybe you can keep your characters art direction or facial features.
2. Lighting in the scenes was also incorrect compared to the original lighting. Faces as an example were always lit even in a scene where no light within that proximity exist.
3. Yes everyone would add this eventually to the scene bar that it won't require a 5090 or two and kinks are worked out at least that's my guess.
1. Faces are like early Stable Diffusion models. if you make 100 of them 98 will have the same nose eye and mouth structures where it looks like the same person. Control of the severity of the AI generation model and maybe you can keep your characters art direction or facial features.
2. Lighting in the scenes was also incorrect compared to the original lighting. Faces as an example were always lit even in a scene where no light within that proximity exist.
3. Yes everyone would add this eventually to the scene bar that it won't require a 5090 or two and kinks are worked out at least that's my guess.
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How would anyone be able to answer that as it's:
Even tho all Nv declarations are probably bullshit, apparently Neural Faces will be a proprietary tech.
Finally, this is my subjective take: it looks like crap and I don't want this on any of my games.
Especially in VAM where I work with appearances creators I love for their art, and I don't want Nvidia to "ai hallucinate" what they think this characters should look like.
- An unavailable tech, which has been announced one day and a half ago.
- Not even sure it'll run on specific models or not
- Not even sure if Nvidia itself even understand what it does
Even tho all Nv declarations are probably bullshit, apparently Neural Faces will be a proprietary tech.
Finally, this is my subjective take: it looks like crap and I don't want this on any of my games.
Especially in VAM where I work with appearances creators I love for their art, and I don't want Nvidia to "ai hallucinate" what they think this characters should look like.
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DLSS, FSR, and XeSS are very nice technologies. Many people associate them with “fake frames,” but this isn’t really true. All the frames in upscaling techniques are real, they’re just rendered at a lower resolution to reduce the load on your GPU and then upscaled with AI. These technologies have improved a lot, and they work well in many games.
But I didn’t expect Nvidia to go this far with DLSS 5. Don’t get me wrong, I was looking forward to neural rendering, but I always thought it would be a separate technology, with textures, assets, and models made specifically for it. Even so, in the tech demos, the textures look really good, but the faces look like they’re coming from an AI model that generates pictures, and I don’t like that.
If DLSS4 or even 5 being added without Neural Rendering, and then add Ray Reconstruction with Ray-tracing or Path-tracing, you could already make insane realistic scene's, so you don't really need Neural Rendering to be honest.
But I didn’t expect Nvidia to go this far with DLSS 5. Don’t get me wrong, I was looking forward to neural rendering, but I always thought it would be a separate technology, with textures, assets, and models made specifically for it. Even so, in the tech demos, the textures look really good, but the faces look like they’re coming from an AI model that generates pictures, and I don’t like that.
If DLSS4 or even 5 being added without Neural Rendering, and then add Ray Reconstruction with Ray-tracing or Path-tracing, you could already make insane realistic scene's, so you don't really need Neural Rendering to be honest.
