Breast morph for tighter clothing? Breast spill/cup overflow.

[SkyGirl]

Hey,

I really like it when say a bra is fractionally too small or breasts slightly spill out over the top of tshirts/bras etc.

Anyone got any morphs in mind that'd work, or If anyone's up for making one.

Thanks, Merry christmas.

 

[Origin69]

This kind of morph is tricky. I tried something like it ages ago when I was making the Hootees clothing, but I wasn't too happy with the result so I didn't add it. It really needs to be look and clothing specific, as it looks odd if the edges of the clothing don't align with the morph deformation (so it also wouldn't work right with clothing that has any cloth sim in the breast area.)

I may have another go at it if I get time later.
Did you have an idea of what piece of clothing you wanted it to work with?

 

[SkyGirl]

This kind of morph is tricky. I tried something like it ages ago when I was making the Hootees clothing, but I wasn't too happy with the result so I didn't add it. It really needs to be look and clothing specific, as it looks odd if the edges of the clothing don't align with the morph deformation (so it also wouldn't work right with clothing that has any cloth sim in the breast area.)

I may have another go at it if I get time later.
Did you have an idea of what piece of clothing you wanted it to work with?

Interesting. It makes sense why I'd be difficult. I dont really have an idea for exactly what clothing as I tend to mix and match alot.

What about something like the chain/belt morphs from superRio kinda style, Except youd have several options of lines across the breasts both vertically and horizontally that cut into the breast? So although not perfect, You might find one that aligns somewhat with the clothing you'd choose?

Kind of like the minitops morph or the CB morphs from morph merger but with more inwards cut rather than outwards push? there is another morph with this kind of idea but they all stem from the nipple and makes choosing which ones tricky, they tend to be better used with micro bikinis or string/rope

 

[Origin69]

The reason why those morphs all radiate out from the center is the geometry that creators have to work with. The breasts are concentric rings with radial lines, so getting a nice diagonal line or curve to look right with a morph is hard. The model looks nice and detailed in vam due to the smoothing passes added, but the base geometry that morphs are created from looks like this. If you imagine drawing a line where the clothing would sit, there are not many vertices intersected to move around. That's why I think it needs custom clothing to fit the best spot for the morph, not the other way around.

 

[SkyGirl]

The reason why those morphs all radiate out from the center is the geometry that creators have to work with. The breasts are concentric rings with radial lines, so getting a nice diagonal line or curve to look right with a morph is hard. The model looks nice and detailed in vam due to the smoothing passes added, but the base geometry that morphs are created from looks like this. If you imagine drawing a line where the clothing would sit, there are not many vertices intersected to move around. That's why I think it needs custom clothing to fit the best spot for the morph, not the other way around.

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Wow, I've never had a chance to see it blown out in blender before, That's fascinating to see where everything's placed. Does every model in VAM use the same modelish to a degree? Do people ever make them from scratch?

I do however see the issue. I assume because of how wonk vam can be, You'd need to get a piece of clothing to do the business end rather than a morph.

What about a couple of pieces of generic clothing of different cuts and then turn the alpha to 0, Essentially having kind of a "fake" morph. then whatever clothing you want sat over the top of?

Although it feels like this might cause some explosions.

 

[murn]

There are two morph sets for overflowing milkers that I know. ggGG and I think SuperRio has them also or that was just the chain anyway you know about that one. ggGG's paid and was made for a small bra that you can get for free to go along with it... or was it the panties. Yeah he has a set for the back trunk. too.

 

[Origin69]

Wow, I've never had a chance to see it blown out in blender before, That's fascinating to see where everything's placed. Does every model in VAM use the same modelish to a degree? Do people ever make them from scratch?

I do however see the issue. I assume because of how wonk vam can be, You'd need to get a piece of clothing to do the business end rather than a morph.

What about a couple of pieces of generic clothing of different cuts and then turn the alpha to 0, Essentially having kind of a "fake" morph. then whatever clothing you want sat over the top of?

Although it feels like this might cause some explosions.

Vam uses the Genesis 2 Models from Daz3d, all looks are based on this, and the changes in geometry are driven by morphs. You can't really do fake morphs as you suppose it, as clothing won't interact with other clothing, it just wraps to the person.

I just meant that an over flow morph would need to have a bra that fit it perfectly for it to look right, but the morph would deform other clothing too.

 

[SkyGirl]

Vam uses the Genesis 2 Models from Daz3d, all looks are based on this, and the changes in geometry are driven by morphs. You can't really do fake morphs as you suppose it, as clothing won't interact with other clothing, it just wraps to the person.

I just meant that an over flow morph would need to have a bra that fit it perfectly for it to look right, but the morph would deform other clothing too.

Dang thats a shame. Ive been kind of faking it with other morphs but you never really got that proper spill effect. Its interesting to see the limitations, Do they have any plans for anything more advanced or is this the tipping point still for games like this?

 

[Origin69]

 

[SkyGirl]

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Heyy, Wow! You got it! Did it turn out to be clothing specific morphs? How did you manage it?

 

[Origin69]

Heyy, Wow! You got it! Did it turn out to be clothing specific morphs? How did you manage it?

Quite a bit of trial and error to see how it looks. It's still not perfect, but I added the body smoother tessellation plugin to round out the blockyness. Should work with different looks too, as it is only the overflow part in the morph. I added some other breast morphs to test it in these images.

I designed it to fit this underwear set by Maru01 as it has a nice look and multiple materials to mix it up with. I still want to test somethings before I publish it, but I won't get time for a few days. I'll put a link here when I post it.

Underwear M1 - Clothing -

Ver.2 I fixed the thong part a little. ( Sim off )

hub.virtamate.com

 

[KillDozer69]

Hey, nice work on that bra morph, Origin69!

A friend of mine linked me to this thread since this is an interest of mine.

I'm working on something a bit more extreme for a new boobie band, but it's not quite baked yet.

Here are some views of the work in progress. The geometry looks pretty extreme in Blender but that's not deterring me.

I'll post another update later with the view in VaM.

Looking forward to what you guys create!

(Blender sculpt view - not tesselated)

DAZ view

Here is a pic in vam after using some built-in morphs to adjust a tiny bit and compensate for volume. No guarantees this will work with smaller breasts. I think it fits the Supa Rio boobie band quite well without using any of those morphs.

 

[Origin69]

I just added the morphs, there is one subtle one and one more intense to blend together. Hope you like them.

Bust Overflow Morphs - Morphs -

Two morphs to blend together to add an overflowing bust effect. They are called; Overflow1 & Overflow2 I only added the overflow geometry changes, so it should work with other breast shapes/Looks. They are designed to work best with this bra by...

hub.virtamate.com

 

[SkyGirl]

I just added the morphs, there is one subtle one and one more intense to blend together. Hope you like them.

Bust Overflow Morphs - Morphs -

Two morphs to blend together to add an overflowing bust effect. They are called; Overflow1 & Overflow2 I only added the overflow geometry changes, so it should work with other breast shapes/Looks. They are designed to work best with this bra by...

hub.virtamate.com

I booted Vam for the first time since Christmas and couldn't believe my eyes, There it was! I've played about with it a bunch, and it works really well with loads of clothing and other breast morphs, You can really get quite detailed. I want to take a few pictures to post here to really flex it off, but I need to work out how to take good photos first. xD

I can't thank you enough, it's such a perfect detail to have, especially for smaller boobs that have a lot of volume. It immediately went into my favourite list and will be used most likely every single time the clothes allowing it.
Thank you for taking the time to create something for the community. I've really wanted to join the modding scene, after seeing this I'm 100% going to make something for everyone.

Thank you

 

[Origin69]

I booted Vam for the first time since Christmas and couldn't believe my eyes, There it was! I've played about with it a bunch, and it works really well with loads of clothing and other breast morphs, You can really get quite detailed. I want to take a few pictures to post here to really flex it off, but I need to work out how to take good photos first. xD

I can't thank you enough, it's such a perfect detail to have, especially for smaller boobs that have a lot of volume. It immediately went into my favourite list and will be used most likely every single time the clothes allowing it.
Thank you for taking the time to create something for the community. I've really wanted to join the modding scene, after seeing this I'm 100% going to make something for everyone.

Thank you

You are very welcome. I'm glad you like it, and I'm so pleased this has made you want to share your own content with the community too. If you want any help or advice on creating something, feel free to ask.