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atani updated quickdress: quickly load and control clothing presets with a new update entry:

2023/04/16

Expanded on the concept by making quickdress VARs:

As a VAR, the quickdress approach is easier to share and reuse in compatible scenes. Compatible scenes have a few requirements with receiver names, depending on how you intend to make the quickdress atom triggers.

I share in the guide 2 quickdress VARs that you can use on the demo scene, or in any scene you like as long as you follow the instructions to be able to use these VARs.

Read the rest of this update entry...
 
Where are these files that you reference in line 2, so I can add them to the empty "quickdress" atom. I can't find them in my entire VaM directory. Am I supposed to know this?
Edit: So I found it, as a vap file, but when I try to load it as a plugin it can't see it. How do I load a vap file into the atom then?
Edit2: I finally figured it out. The vap is a preset file. Not to be an A-hole but, you really needed to spell that out, as in, let us who have not got your knowledge of Vam know how to load these things, as in baby steps.
Edit3: Nevermind, I am so new at this type of software. and this is more for someone who has knowledge of the various triggers and variables, way, way above my head. I am beginning to see that your templates are for creators with experience, not a noob such as I. Kewl stuff anyway, but I was not wanting to see how good you are at this, I wanted to learn how to do it myself.. Back to the wading pool for me, this is too deep.
 
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Where are these files that you reference in line 2, so I can add them to the empty "quickdress" atom. I can't find them in my entire VaM directory. Am I supposed to know this?
Edit: So I found it, as a vap file, but when I try to load it as a plugin it can't see it. How do I load a vap file into the atom then?
Edit2: I finally figured it out. The vap is a preset file. Not to be an A-hole but, you really needed to spell that out, as in, let us who have not got your knowledge of Vam know how to load these things, as in baby steps.
Edit3: Nevermind, I am so new at this type of software. and this is more for someone who has knowledge of the various triggers and variables, way, way above my head. I am beginning to see that your templates are for creators with experience, not a noob such as I. Kewl stuff anyway, but I was not wanting to see how good you are at this, I wanted to learn how to do it myself.. Back to the wading pool for me, this is too deep.
Hold on, let me understand what you mean first.

Line 2 in the resource description or point 2 in the instructions below quoted?
A quickdress VAR has a empty atom preset and a clothing preset. The empty atom has 2 instances of the VAMStory Actions plugin, providing a UI for loading and controlling the clothing preset and its clothes. All together, this makes a quickdress preset in VAR form.

How to use the above quickdress VARs in any scene:
  1. Add a empty atom and name it quickdress;
    • The person atom must be called Female
  2. Load the empty atom preset in the VAR (var_name:/Custom/Atom/Empty/quickdress/Preset...);
  3. Click the button Load outfit;
  4. Use the buttons to control the clothes.
I assume it's point 2 above.

As you can see in the line quoted: "A quickdress has a empty atom preset and a clothing preset"...", I am talking about presets, even says so in the resource title.
Line 2 then refers to where in the quickdress named VAR you downloaded is the preset you're supposed to load.
e.g.:
  1. You downloaded the VAR from the guide called "atani.quickdress_-_Schoolgirl_2.2.var"
  2. After doing point 1, you go to that empty atom (preset tab), click load preset and:
    1. find the VAR atani.quickdress_-_Schoolgirl_2.2 in your files
    2. if not already in the "empty atom" preset folder of the VAR, then go to Custom > Atom > Empty > quickdress
    3. Load the file "quickdress_Schoolgirl 2" or something like that
    4. The above should load like it does in the demo scene.
Edit: So I found it, as a vap file, but when I try to load it as a plugin it can't see it. How do I load a vap file into the atom then?
Presets are not plugins. if this is unclear do go see the tutorials again.

Edit2: I finally figured it out. The vap is a preset file. Not to be an A-hole but, you really needed to spell that out, as in, let us who have not got your knowledge of Vam know how to load these things, as in baby steps.
Sorry, but I do mention that I'm talking about presets and this is content shown in beginner tutorials.
I see you're very new to VaM. There's a lot to learn and it will take a long time to have a really good grasp on all that VaM offers. If you don't understand something in a guide, then always check if the concept is covered elsewhere, especially if it's a core concept like presets. Not to be an A-hole but, I don't need to spell everything out when it's a core VaM concept explained elsewhere. While I do hope that the time spent here writing this will help you, you need to help yourself first.

Edit3: Nevermind, I am so new at this type of software. and this is more for someone who has knowledge of the various triggers and variables, way, way above my head. I am beginning to see that your templates are for creators with experience, not a noob such as I. Kewl stuff anyway, but I was not wanting to see how good you are at this, I wanted to learn how to do it myself.. Back to the wading pool for me, this is too deep.
There are two dimensions on the guide, one for all* users and another for experienced creators.
One dimension is in using the quickdress presets, the entry barrier is knowing the basics of loading presets, naming a atom, downloading dependencies of a VAR, and this kind of stuff. If you're not there yet then just check out the beginner tutorials and you'll quickly reach that threshold. Sometimes things look very complicated until you "get it" and it becomes like a walk in the park.
The other dimension is in making quickdress presets. This is something for experienced creators but you're free to learn about it, some day you may become a experienced creator as everyone starts not being one.

When you understand how the quickdress preset loading works and want more of these, you can get them on my website:
 
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Hold on, let me understand what you mean first.

Line 2 in the resource description or point 2 in the instructions below quoted?

I assume it's point 2 above.

As you can see in the line quoted: "A quickdress has a empty atom preset and a clothing preset"...", I am talking about presets, even says so in the resource title.
Line 2 then refers to where in the quickdress named VAR you downloaded is the preset you're supposed to load.
e.g.:
  1. You downloaded the VAR from the guide called "atani.quickdress_-_Schoolgirl_2.2.var"
  2. After doing point 1, you go to that empty atom (preset tab), click load preset and:
    1. find the VAR atani.quickdress_-_Schoolgirl_2.2 in your files
    2. if not already in the "empty atom" preset folder of the VAR, then go to Custom > Atom > Empty > quickdress
    3. Load the file "quickdress_Schoolgirl 2" or something like that
    4. The above should load like it does in the demo scene.

Presets are not plugins. if this is unclear do go see the tutorials again.


Sorry, but I do mention that I'm talking about presets and this is content shown in beginner tutorials.
I see you're very new to VaM. There's a lot to learn and it will take a long time to have a really good grasp on all that VaM offers. If you don't understand something in a guide, then always check if the concept is covered elsewhere, especially if it's a core concept like presets. Not to be an A-hole but, I don't need to spell everything out when it's a core VaM concept explained elsewhere. While I do hope that the time spent here writing this will help you, you need to help yourself first.


There are two dimensions on the guide, one for all* users and another for experienced creators.
One dimension is in using the quickdress presets, the entry barrier is knowing the basics of loading presets, naming a atom, downloading dependencies of a VAR, and this kind of stuff. If you're not there yet then just check out the beginner tutorials and you'll quickly reach that threshold. Sometimes things look very complicated until you "get it" and it becomes like a walk in the park.
The other dimension is in making quickdress presets. This is something for experienced creators but you're free to learn about it, some day you may become a experienced creator as everyone starts not being one.

When you understand how the quickdress preset loading works and want more of these, you can get them on my website:
First off, I apoligize for some of my statements yesterday. I was just so frustrated with how things were going. My appoligies. Yeah, was not seeing the full instructions, it does say "preset", just was not understanding the concept. So far I have only been using plugins (bodylanguage, vammoan, natualis, etc.) so I was not familiar with presets other than when I save a person atom I use a preset. If you have not figured it out, I am totally new to this type of software. I am not new to computers ( I have built quite a few of my own ). But I never got into programming. My experience is mostly based on Skyrim as a mod user. So I approached this software the same way. I am still trying to get the basics down. When I saw your "template" series I grabbed them all. I loaded up the demos to see them in action but, when I tried to use it with my own creations, well, I failed. I then spent hours trying to figure out where you where getting the files you were using, by looking at every atom you were using and looking inside them. Most of the plugins that your using are still foriegn to me, so I will need to learn them. As I stated earlier, the trouble with most of the guides here and on UTube is that the authors seem to assume that the reader or viewer has the knowledge beforehand. So as a NOOB I didn't understand what these files were or where to find them. When I was trying to load the plugin tab of the empty quickdress atom you had created I was only gettting, well, script listings. After more hours I finally found a few guides for total Noobs. It was then that I learned about presets for clothing, hair, skins, etc. and where they were saved. Then I was able to load the presets you had made. Now, my question at this point is, In the quickdress demo you used UIButtons to set the clothing state, do I need to also create UIButtons to load the clothing states and if so, where do I put them? Do I need to "create" another row of buttons beside your control panel? Again, I do apolgize for yesterday. Just my frustration coming through. and thanks for the "calm" reply.
 
No worries. If there's one thing I can assure that is shared between necomers and experienced VaM users, is frustration 😅
But frustration can lead to pushing harder to find solutions and ideas, so there's some reward there :)
I also added a note on the quickdress resource description saying what the person should know how to use before following the guide.

My more recent templates (2023 and NEXT) are not meant for new users or those unfamiliar to the logicbricks and vamstory plugins. I actually thought I had this written somewhere, maybe I deleted it while rewriting, will do that soon.
The above plugins are the backbone of almost all triggers in the template scenes. They allow for complexity and options that would be very difficult to achieve with simple triggers, but for someone that doesn't understand how they work it is all very confusing when breaking it down. I understand this, I used to wonder too how the hell did people make use of those tools and why.

My first template before I understood what logicbricks were:

When I finally moved to logicbricks - vamstory didn't exist yet - it opened up a whole new world of scene making for me. I could then do more complex things without going into trigger management hell.
If I were to open this template and see my structure, I would probably vomit a bit 😄 , but I keep it because it is still useful for others starting who are not familiar with the stated plugins and is relatively approachable, even if messy and inneficient.

A problem with making guides, VaM or anything else really, is that everyone comes from different backgrounds and knowledge. I've been using VaM for years, and while on some things I can be very experienced, on other things I'm on a beginner level, and each person has gaps in different places than others. Knowledge building and sharing is more of a swiss cheese type rather than a linear solid progression; and sometimes a guide hits a gap for some but not others.
If you didn't see it, the Wiki has a Guides category with curated collections of guides by topic.

Ok, back to the topic of quickdress. The concept is meant for a specific usecase and perhaps you're going too soon into it?
If you just want to load clothes on a person, a clothing preset will do that, just like a appearance preset changes the person's looks. You can also have more clothing presets showing different states of the same clothing. I wanted to have something better than this so that's why I created the quickdress preset system.

A quickdress is a set of buttons options and clothing presets that give you control of the loaded clothes using a UI. It's made primarily for use on my template-based scenes, but adaptable to others with some light scene editing. Essentially you load a quickdress preset* on the quickdress named atom and a menu should appear, giving you options to change clothing states.
Besides loading a quickdress preset and clicking the buttons to change the clothes state, there's nothing else you need to do there. And if you want a different set of quickdress clothes, just load a new quickdress preset of another quickdress VAR. Some (on my website) even include multiple outfits, super quickdress presets if you will ;)

*quickdress preset is a empty atom preset ("empty" is a type of atom in the misc. atom category)

If you prefer more direct guiding, feel free to contact me on Discord. I'm on the official VaM server under the same username as here.
 
No worries. If there's one thing I can assure that is shared between necomers and experienced VaM users, is frustration 😅
But frustration can lead to pushing harder to find solutions and ideas, so there's some reward there :)
I also added a note on the quickdress resource description saying what the person should know how to use before following the guide.

My more recent templates (2023 and NEXT) are not meant for new users or those unfamiliar to the logicbricks and vamstory plugins. I actually thought I had this written somewhere, maybe I deleted it while rewriting, will do that soon.
The above plugins are the backbone of almost all triggers in the template scenes. They allow for complexity and options that would be very difficult to achieve with simple triggers, but for someone that doesn't understand how they work it is all very confusing when breaking it down. I understand this, I used to wonder too how the hell did people make use of those tools and why.

My first template before I understood what logicbricks were:

When I finally moved to logicbricks - vamstory didn't exist yet - it opened up a whole new world of scene making for me. I could then do more complex things without going into trigger management hell.
If I were to open this template and see my structure, I would probably vomit a bit 😄 , but I keep it because it is still useful for others starting who are not familiar with the stated plugins and is relatively approachable, even if messy and inneficient.

A problem with making guides, VaM or anything else really, is that everyone comes from different backgrounds and knowledge. I've been using VaM for years, and while on some things I can be very experienced, on other things I'm on a beginner level, and each person has gaps in different places than others. Knowledge building and sharing is more of a swiss cheese type rather than a linear solid progression; and sometimes a guide hits a gap for some but not others.
If you didn't see it, the Wiki has a Guides category with curated collections of guides by topic.

Ok, back to the topic of quickdress. The concept is meant for a specific usecase and perhaps you're going too soon into it?
If you just want to load clothes on a person, a clothing preset will do that, just like a appearance preset changes the person's looks. You can also have more clothing presets showing different states of the same clothing. I wanted to have something better than this so that's why I created the quickdress preset system.

A quickdress is a set of buttons options and clothing presets that give you control of the loaded clothes using a UI. It's made primarily for use on my template-based scenes, but adaptable to others with some light scene editing. Essentially you load a quickdress preset* on the quickdress named atom and a menu should appear, giving you options to change clothing states.
Besides loading a quickdress preset and clicking the buttons to change the clothes state, there's nothing else you need to do there. And if you want a different set of quickdress clothes, just load a new quickdress preset of another quickdress VAR. Some (on my website) even include multiple outfits, super quickdress presets if you will ;)

*quickdress preset is a empty atom preset ("empty" is a type of atom in the misc. atom category)

If you prefer more direct guiding, feel free to contact me on Discord. I'm on the official VaM server under the same username as here.
Thank you for your reply. I guess when I saw the quickdress I was hoping it would solve a problem I am currently at.

A bit of background, I have created my first scene. I have a very basic living room ( sofa, coffee table, couple of neon lamps...), nothing too drastic. I'm using a 4 point lighting rig, set to spotlights to cover the room. I created a subscene atom and attached everything to it so I can move it around if I need. Then I put in 2 person atoms, one female (person) and one male (person#2). I then loaded vammoan and workout plugins on the male atom. I then loaded naturalist, workout, vammoan, fluids and bodylanguage on the female atom.

I then use bodylanguage to load in pre-made poses (by vam_herous, since his pose sets are built off of or for bodyslide). I freeze the action then I load in a pose, create a grab point, link the atoms and use it to get the pose into position where I want it. Tweak it to fit the location and then unfreeze to check my work (freezing and tweaking as necessary). I then update the pose and move the camera to where I want the opening look to start and update it. I did this for 10 different poses. I then use bodyslides built in triggers to trigger the males moans to coincide with the bodyslides built in voice using stimulation triggers. I also use the climax trigger to set off her fluids (squirt). Pretty basic stuff, since it is all premade and I just use it as I need (my Skyrim modding background in use).

So, I am now wanting to setup a sort of opening scene where they are dressed, and meet up, for a lack of a better term. I would use various poses to mimic getting undressed. This is at least until I figure out how to use Timeline a lot better (well actually not timeline itself but, posing. I am struggling with the built in physics of VaM when I try posing a person. Very challenging for me at this time). Sort of a statice VN so to speak (which I could build off of when I get better at using the tools available). So that is why I was looking at your templates to see how I could achieve this and if had it the tools I was needing.

In the long run I will keep building it out till I have a basic "story". Then I will need to learn triggers and transitions to make it "flow" per se. I'm also working on a bedroom scene, similar to the living room to tie it eventually to each other. I know, a lot, but I have it in my head, and I know the tools are there, I just need to learn how to implement them. Right now I would be happy just getting a "static" VN sort of thing made, with action on the sex scenes.

I guess I should mention that all my work is on desktop, for desktop (I don't even own a VR set and never will, I wear glasses. And no headset is light enough to not have them digging into the side of my head after about 45 minutes to an hour, I've tried. I can't even use a gaming headset, it hurts too much and takes hours to go away). So, why I have the "VN" sort of view to this project. A kind of sit and watch with points of interaction to move it along. I have seen some of the other creators scenes that are similar in nature. Figured it was a good starting place since I am very familiar with AVN's. and new to VaM.
 
Quickdress is for user controlled actions independent of the scene, but you seem to be going for a automated or not sequence of clothing states. For that it makes more sense to use clothing presets and/or triggers to achieve what you want.
Let me say that you are already way more advanced than most newcomers and even people here for years. There will be some gaps, like it was for presets, but you're on your way to make your own animated scene which is always a huge milestone. While using VaM content is fun and all, I find the most pleasure (and frustation) in the making of content.

I don't use BodyLanguage, so I don't know what feature it has or not. Posing takes a while getting used to, whether in VR or desktop, but there's also some plugins around to help with this, worth checking them out.
If you need tips on the scene making, like for the clothing and triggers, and you use Discord, feel free to contact me there. It's much easier than big texts here as the details on the scene matter when trying to find simple and efficient options.

Sucks that you can't use VR. When I found out about VaM on the same day I decided to go full on the VR direction, pretty much all my use of VR is with VaM :love:
 
Hello,

I'm sorry if this is a dumb question but I'm really stuck... When trying to load the preset, I simply can't see the .vap. At all. The explorer just shows the folder to be empty. But doing "Open in windows explorer" will show that the .vap is here no problem.

I'm supposed to do "Load Preset" in the empty quickdress atom I just created, right?
 
Hello,

I'm sorry if this is a dumb question but I'm really stuck... When trying to load the preset, I simply can't see the .vap. At all. The explorer just shows the folder to be empty. But doing "Open in windows explorer" will show that the .vap is here no problem.

I'm supposed to do "Load Preset" in the empty quickdress atom I just created, right?
Are you talking about the demo scene or are you adding a empty atom in another scene to load a quickdress preset?

A quickdress preset is a "empty" atom preset. An example of a empty atom preset in the VARs shared has a location like: atani.quickdress_-_Schoolgirl_2.2.var\Custom\Atom\Empty\quickdress\Preset_quickdress - Schoolgirl 2.vap
When loading a preset from the preset tab of a empty atom it should allow you to see this vap (vap) if selecting the VAR on the sidebar list or to browse to it.

Maybe a screenshot of what you're doing might help if the above does not answer your question?
 
Thanks for the quick response!

So I'm talking about adding en empty atom to load a preset.

I go to the "load Preset" of the quickdress atom I just made...

Screen Shot 12-14-24 at 11.55 AM.PNG


Then navigate to the folder where I copied the content of the .var, to see it's empty:
Screen Shot 12-14-24 at 11.57 AM.PNG


Even though (by doing "Open in Windows explorer" I can confirm the .vap is here:
Screen Shot 12-14-24 at 11.58 AM.PNG


(Note: I copied the content of the .var because I do not see the .var at all either)
 
(Note: I copied the content of the .var because I do not see the .var at all either)
Don't extract the contents of the VAR, or any VAR for that matter, unless you really know why you're doing that. Doing so will make a mess and break things most likely.

My quickdress VAR is not shown on the sidebar of the second screenshot, which should as it has empty atom presets. Make sure the VAR is on the AddonPackages folder, like all VARs, and do a hard reset or restart VaM. If it still doesn't show on the sidebar or by browsing, then there's something wrong with your VaM that needs to be fixed, as loading empty atom presets on a empty atom is a core feature of VaM.

As I opened VaM to confirm things and added a empty atom in a scene, the paths shown in the sidebar do not match at all what you show in your second screenshot. The first one should be "Custom/Atom/Empty".
Did you add a empty atom - listed in the atom list as "empty" in Misc.?
 
>Did you add a empty atom - listed in the atom list as "empty" in Misc.?


That's what I did yeah.


Yeah I had started with putting the var in AddonPackages, but can't get to this folder at all. The select preset will take me to Saves and won't let me get anywhere higher in the tree. So apparently there is something broken with my VaM.
Edit: apparently I can access it (through "addonpackage flattened") but it shows none of all the .var present in this folder. I guess reinstall is my next step.

In any case, thank you so much for taking the time to try to figure this out.
 
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I've never encountered a situation where the default path would be like yours, apart from scenes or legacy presets. The default paths are specific to the atom type, and a "custom/Atom/Empty" is the one for empty atoms, just like a "Custom/Atom/Person/Appearance" would be for a appearance preset.

Wait a second, did you actually press the button on the first screenshot "Load preset". That is not the place to load a preset for the empty atom, that's for legacy presets that you should never use on anything. It's the preset tab, not that load preset button in the atom control tab.
Ok, things make sense now, never use those legacy buttons.

Edited the resource description to warn not to make the mistake with legacy presets
 
I've never encountered a situation where the default path would be like yours, apart from scenes or legacy presets. The default paths are specific to the atom type, and a "custom/Atom/Empty" is the one for empty atoms, just like a "Custom/Atom/Person/Appearance" would be for a appearance preset.

Wait a second, did you actually press the button on the first screenshot "Load preset". That is not the place to load a preset for the empty atom, that's for legacy presets that you should never use on anything. It's the preset tab, not that load preset button in the atom control tab.
Ok, things make sense now, never use those legacy buttons.

Edited the resource description to warn not to make the mistake with legacy presets
Well, That is exactly what I was doing. And now that I went to the preset tab, the problem is fixed.

Thank you so much for your patience with this. I had no idea this button was legacy.
 
It's something not specifically mentioned and most people end up using the tab first anyway, one reason that I didn't even payed attention to that possibility.
It's mentioned for the person atoms, has text in the area saying not to use, but not on the other atoms.

Anyway, all's good and you're sorted I hope.
See my website (link in profile) for a shit ton more of other quickdress options.
 
I made none, doubt that someone else did.
Is there anything about the guide you'd like to know that a video would show better?
Just more of a viual learner is all. That and I'm still a novice when it comes to how the plugins work and all the functions they have.
I'll figure it out eventually. Still got plenty of basic tutorials to watch anyway.
Thanks though. :)
 
Using quickdress presets on a scene is simple enough to nearly all users, but making them from scratch is much more challenging.
Most of this guide is centered to experienced users who are familiar with presets, the vamstory plugin, triggers, making scenes, etc. I will reorganize the content a bit to make a clear distinction between how to use a quickdress preset (noob friendly) and how they work (experience users).
 
Is there any easier way to do this? By pressing a UI button and taking off a certain piece of clothing?
 
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