VaM 1.x If I download a scene and edit it and save can I delete the original VAR?

[Battletoad08]

I download some scenes and I want to edit and change some things, removing alot of assets so it runs smoother. I save it a different file name, can I delete the original VAR file? My addon packages folder is almost 1TB and it takes 5 minutes to load a scene after years of editing.

Thanks.

 

[hazmhox]

If there's assets/things included inside of the var, potentially not if you don't change all paths to the local version you extracted.

 

[Battletoad08]

If there's assets/things included inside of the var, potentially not if you don't change all paths to the local version you extracted.

I basically just keep the animations and switch them to my looks. I use passthrough alot so I need to remove almost all object's.

 

[Origin69]

I download some scenes and I want to edit and change some things, removing alot of assets so it runs smoother. I save it a different file name, can I delete the original VAR file? My addon packages folder is almost 1TB and it takes 5 minutes to load a scene after years of editing.

Thanks.

It will also be effected by how many dependencies var's the original scene is drawing on too. If you delete them, but the scene has them listed then you will get error messages that they are missing. You can use this plugin to view what is being used in the scene.

DependencyViewer - Plugins + Scripts -

DependencyViewer is a script for finding all dependencies in the scene, and their sub dependencies. And downloading dependencies from selected scene, or from meta.json file in package. You can scan current scene or select VAM preset .vap ...

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You can have more than one Vam install folder. I keep 2 main ones. One has everything i've downloaded so far in the addon packages folder for playing around and viewing other peoples scenes, the other just has the things I need for making and testing scenes and creating my own morphs, looks and clothing. The slimmed down version loads way faster.

 

[Hipper]

My experience (which is only four months!) is 'no'.

I downloaded a scene, removed assets I didn't want, saved under a new name (so now stored in my 'VaM/Saves/scene' folder), then remove the original file from VaM (using File Explorer, removing the file from 'VaM/AddonPackages' and storing it out of VaM to test what would happen). I suspect, as Hazmhox indicates, the paths to the assets used in the saved file are still collected from the original var file.

However, if you remove the assets you don't want from the scene, then save the original file, that works. Of course this means the scene is permanently changed on your PC but you can still download the original from the Hub, if that's where it came from. I mostly removed Person atoms but also some objects like chairs.

That's my expereience anyway!

Loading times for scenes with scenery, like classrooms, still takes time though. I just do something else, on my PC or clean the house!

 

[Battletoad08]

Id guess that most would be fine becuase

It will also be effected by how many dependencies var's the original scene is drawing on too. If you delete them, but the scene has them listed then you will get error messages that they are missing. You can use this plugin to view what is being used in the scene.

DependencyViewer - Plugins + Scripts -

DependencyViewer is a script for finding all dependencies in the scene, and their sub dependencies. And downloading dependencies from selected scene, or from meta.json file in package. You can scan current scene or select VAM preset .vap ...

hub.virtamate.com

You can have more than one Vam install folder. I keep 2 main ones. One has everything i've downloaded so far in the addon packages folder for playing around and viewing other peoples scenes, the other just has the things I need for making and testing scenes and creating my own morphs, looks and clothing. The slimmed down version loads way faster.

its just the animations that are left and the plugins the girls use? Maybe session plugins or scene plugins? Maybe is the scene has looks it'll mess them up? I change those 90% of the time as well.
So if I have alll the plugins like vamtimeline, body language, glance, things like that most stuff will work? I guess I could try the multiple installs but after using VAM for years that is ALOT of cleanup lol. I probably have 30 scenes I made by hand that are 10 to 15 mins long.

 

[hazmhox]

So if I have alll the plugins like vamtimeline, body language, glance, things like that most stuff will work?

It will unless the creator did the bad move of including them in the var.

 

[Battletoad08]

Is there a plugin so that you can delete files from within the thumbnail UI? it would take for ever to figure out whats what in the UI then delete it from the folders. There is a gear next to the items in the UI but no delete option.

 

[hazmhox]

Anything local can be deleted.
Obviously not inside a .var

 

[Battletoad08]

Anything local can be deleted.
Obviously not inside a .var

I mean as you look at the scenes and looks and stuff in the thumbnail view there is a gear next to each one. It would make it way easier if you could just have a delete option there.

 

[hazmhox]

I mean as you look at the scenes and looks and stuff in the thumbnail view there is a gear next to each one. It would make it way easier if you could just have a delete option there.

That's what I was trying to say. You can delete everything local with that gear menu, just not inside of var (which are compressed archives).

 

[Battletoad08]

That's what I was trying to say. You can delete everything local with that gear menu, just not inside of var (which are compressed archives).

Weird, mine doesnt, I only get these options.

 

[hazmhox]

These are var files
Look at the path "LDR.SimpleRoom.2..."

 

[Battletoad08]

These are var files
Look at the path "LDR.SimpleRoom.2..."

Yea I understand that, just would be nice to be able to delete the var from that screen since it has a thumbnail preview.

 

[hazmhox]

The big "all scenes" or whatever it's called at the middle of the launch menu?
Honestly, I don't even know why that exists nor why people uses it

 

[Battletoad08]

The big "all scenes" or whatever it's called at the middle of the launch menu?
Honestly, I don't even know why that exists nor why people uses it

ive always used it, because of the previews.

 

[Hipper]

The big "all scenes" or whatever it's called at the middle of the launch menu?
Honestly, I don't even know why that exists nor why people uses it

What do you use to launch your scenes? Do you use 'U' and go to scenes that way?

I get what Battletoad08 is saying. I also note that scenes I save are json files. Is there a reason why we cannot delete var files in VaM?

 

[atani]

I get what Battletoad08 is saying. I also note that scenes I save are json files. Is there a reason why we cannot delete var files in VaM?

You can with Package Manager.
You can't with the Scene Browser to prevent deleting the entire VAR that may have a lot more than just the scene. It's there for preventing unwanted data loss. You can also use the plugin Browser Assist for a better browser.

 

[hazmhox]

What do you use to launch your scenes? Do you use 'U' and go to scenes that way?

Yes, just like pretty much any software/game. "Load" and select your file. The global "all scene" thingy is wayyyyyyyyy too slow and way too random due to the way VAM's content work and how "non-homogenous" creation process amongst users is. You could end up with 5 new scenes in that screen for a random "appearance" download just because the creator did like 5 scenes instead of appearances presets.

Is there a reason why we cannot delete var files in VaM?

As atani said, in the package manager.
What you're seeing in these screens are specific "files" (looks, scenes, appearances, assets... etc)

 

[Origin69]

You can with Package Manager.
You can't with the Scene Browser to prevent deleting the entire VAR that may have a lot more than just the scene. It's there for preventing unwanted data loss. You can also use the plugin Browser Assist for a better browser.

My problem with deleting things through the package manager is other dependencies. If I download a scene that has 40 dependancies, the chances are that I already have and use half of them, but download all gives me the other looks/hair/clothing etc for that scene. If I just delete the original var through the package manager there are "loose" vars left over that I don't know or need. After testing a scene and not using it again for a while, I tend to look through my scene browser, identify what I want to delete, and then find it in my addon packages folder and sort the vars by date and delete all of the ones that were added at the same time. Not sure if there is an easier way to do this.