I need a mobility for the device where I run VAM.Buy a macbook and a high end pc from the price of a gaming laptop as I have done, if mobility matters Browsing and working with mac, and fapping with pc.
The ultimate solution to your needs is cloud gaming. Where I live, there is only 4g internet, and can't use it. It is extremly portable, extremly fast, and cheap as hell, but you need blazing fast internet. I'm courious how VAM runnig on that rig: https://shadow.tech/. I think this is the future not, the present...I need a mobility for the device where I run VAM.
Should I start looking into the barebone boxes I can install desktop CPU + GPU but still can easily move it around?
Or it is a path to nowhere and high performance desktop system is huge box.
if it is the first time assembling... be a lot careful to what those wonderful rgb, full metal jacket glass look pc-cases do... to roast the poor innocent hardware you were paying so much ?I need a mobility for the device where I run VAM.
Should I start looking into the barebone boxes I can install desktop CPU + GPU but still can easily move it around?
Or it is a path to nowhere and high performance desktop system is huge box.
I kindly disagree. I think the Cloud is only good to try out VAM so you could avoid spending a ton of money for expansive hardware.The ultimate solution to your needs is cloud gaming. Where I live, there is only 4g internet, and can't use it. It is extremly portable, extremly fast, and cheap as hell, but you need blazing fast internet. I'm courious how VAM runnig on that rig: https://shadow.tech/. I think this is the future not, the present...
Typical Cloud CPU issues:Yesterday I already tested the AMD Datacenter GPU Radeon Instinct in Azure https://www.amd.com/en/products/professional-graphics/instinct-mi25 and an AMD EPYC 7V12(Rome) CPU, but this was a complete fail with ~8fps.
I guess now I need to invest more time into testing non-HT cloud setups like these mentioned here:Typical Cloud CPU issues:
- potential scheduling CPU core latency issues - non Cloud Threadripper example
- being unable to control the CPU affinity due being in a virtual machine you have no direct control
- Cloud CPUs in general being virtualized and shared costing performance
- datacenter CPUs like Xeon, Epic, Threadripper being high core count, but low single core speed, the opposite of what VAM 1.x needs now
Please share some benchmark results! It will be interesting to know the VAM performance of the Shadow and other cloud pc-s!I guess now I need to invest more time into testing non-HT cloud setups like these mentioned here:
Azure vCPUs and Hyper-threading
First of all, what the heck is Hyper-threading? Well, in a nutshell Hyper-threading is a technology found on some Intel chips (AMD have their own equivalent technology) to improve multi-tasking by …www.google.com
I am personally still running the shadow setup, since it's much better than my laptop setup and I did not yet buy a nice local gaming pc.
What could work very well in theory is a Cloud PC where you would have a fully dedicated desktop-class CPU paired with a good GPU.
But who offers that? The price would be high. Obviously CPUs are usually being virtualized to cut costs.
Interesting, 980 Ti + i5 works faster than Ryzen 6900HS + 6700s.Figured I should contribute to the data if i'm commenting in this thread!
fresh install with no overclocks.
Memory DDR4 2666 15-15-15-35 (running at stock. no xmp profile loaded)
It is really 3440 * 1440 resolution?
I found a bug in the benchmark when it shows wrong resolution.
Just accept notebooks whoever has same peak power as the desktop configs, under continous load they sucks. I have an asus rog strix notebook and a macbook with earth shaking power, they are just so responsive you can't imagine. They load an app, before you hit the button. But when you start continous heavy load, like blender, VAM etc, they just perform like a low end piece of shit...Interesting, 980 Ti + i5 works faster than Ryzen 6900HS + 6700s.
It is really 3440 * 1440 resolution?
I found a bug in the benchmark when it shows wrong resolution.
just curious, could you please put 1080p results?Yeah 1440p ultrawide
just curious, could you please put 1080p results?
@Mr Explicit 1
Upgrading the GPU would probably result in the biggest FPS gain overall. But then there is the RTX4000-series coming this year. So - buy now - regret later risk. Allegedly the RTX 4090 flagship is being tested right now.
Replacing the CPU using a AM4-socket 5000-series drop-in replacement would improve performance mainly in physics heavy scenes. But then there is ZEN4 CPUs for AM5 not that far away. AM4 is now a dead end-of-life product. While still strong, it cannot beat going Intel 12th gen like the 12700K (Except the 5800X3D maybe). Going Intel now would mean new motherboard + CPU + potential RAM upgrade to DDR5. Very expensive. 13th gen Intel Raptor Lake seems to be coming in 2022 too. My point is - by the end of this year - in only a few month the 'best' hardware will be completely different and it's actually quite rare to have so many big releases in a year. Worth the wait?
12900k cheaper than the 5900x3d, the 12700 just fights in totally different weight class. It is a shame we compare amd high end cpu with intel mid class cpu expecting same performace. Please don't feel offended, just wanted to figure out the consequentis of test results, and just wanted to help with tougths, feel free to tell yours.So that's exactly a 20% plus in 1080p in relation to a 3900X.
That's a 9% plus to my 12700K stock in 1080p. Even though comparison on this page says there's a 25% single core advantage for the 12700K:
https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-12700K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-5800X3D/4119vsm1817839
Or this:
https://www.cpu-monkey.com/de/compare_cpu-amd_ryzen_7_5800x3d-vs-intel_core_i7_12700k
Here it is 15%:
https://nanoreview.net/en/cpu-compare/intel-core-i7-12700k-vs-amd-ryzen-7-5800x3d
So what do we have here?
Difference in 1440p and 4K is like zero between your twos, so that's GPU bottlenecked 100%. It would be interesting to know (for me) how the 5800X3D performs vs. the 12700K in a real CPU bottlenecked scene. Cause like I said some pages before: the benchmark is fine but not very orientated to real game scenes where the physics are a huge factor.
You want competition?