Plugins + Scripts AutoThruster Plus

rarirurero69 said:

I completely agree with you. New and improved plugins keep coming out, and learning each one isn’t always easy. However, compared to Blender, VaM is much easier to learn, which is why I keep using it.

Your plugin is amazing as well. Being able to apply motion directly to the character means I no longer have to manually set animation keys one by one in the timeline. On top of that, the randomization feature really surprised me when it was first released.

At the same time, I did run into some issues, and I spent quite a while wondering whether I should ask about them or not. After seeing how kind and helpful you are, I honestly wish I had asked sooner. Now that the problem has been resolved, I feel really great about it.

Thank you very much.

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nah....never hesitate to reach out to creators. I've found a vast majority of the VAM community to be great people.

Bro seriously, it very cool plug - but even with maximal speed "Duration Range Bias" at zero - it pretty slow. Ok or maybe normal - but not fast.
Can you just add please the multiplier to "Duration Range Bias" then ? (i see that at less important parameters there is x10, but why not add this the same to speed ?

BTW today got contrary problem - need was Very slow - but was not able achieve this (set Duration Bias to 1 - it barely changed speed).
I'd still vote for more controllable speed adjustment.
In rest - one of the bests.

Update:
Ok sorry after experimenting with bunch of parameters seems was able to make slow.
But still prob regarding fast lol

5DVoom said:

BTW today got contrary problem - need was Very slow - but was not able achieve this (set Duration Bias to 1 - it barely changed speed).
I'd still vote for more controllable speed adjustment.
In rest - one of the bests.

Update:
Ok sorry after experimenting with bunch of parameters seems was able to make slow.
But still prob regarding fast lol

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Sorry you're having issues. I promise you, you can definitely achieve the speeds you want. I'll try to be very clear.

1 - Set the MIN duration to the fastest you want the cycle to go.
2 - Set the MAX duration to the slowest you want the cycle to go.
Setting those two sets the "range" of durations/speeds that the thrust can use.

3 - Duration Change Rate - This one is VERY important. When the plugin chooses a random duration (within the min and max you set), this slider chooses what percentage it actually uses to go to that new value. If you have it at 1, it will go directly to that new speed. If you have it at .5, it will go halfway to that new speed first. This slider is designed to prevent really abrupt speed changes, but, in your case, setting this to 1 means it will go directly to the new speed you want.

4 - let's go to the bottom of this section next. Speed HOLD Cycles Min and Max. This plugin ONLY changes speed after a cycle has completed and before the next one starts. Again, this is to prevent weird movements. It sets how many cycles have to complete before a new value is allowed. In your case, set this to just 1 for both. This way, when you do change the Bias slider, it will go to the next speed as fast as it can. I have no plans to allow for speed changes during a cycle as this will create bad motion behavior. But setting it to 1 means it will complete the thrust it's on and switch to the next speed immediately after.

5 - Duration Range Bias - If you set those settings above as mentioned, this slider should be much closer to what you want to do now. If you have it set to halfway, it will randomly choose durations/speeds from the entire MIN/MAX range. If you set it all the way up, it will just use the slowest speed. If you set it at the lowest, it will only use the fastest duration.

My suggestion for your case is to create a couple different presets that are triggerable in the scene. Preset 1, your faster speeds. Preset 2, your mid speeds. Preset 3, your slowest speeds. This way, within those you can still have variability but clicking a button then allows you to choose which speed you want at any time (with the caveat that the plugin still needs to complete the cycle it's on first).

@Dragontales
Thanks will check.

Dragontales said:

My suggestion for your case is to create a couple different presets that are triggerable in the scene.

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Yes i already made a bunch presets.

5DVoom said:

@Dragontales
Thanks will check.


Yes i already made a bunch presets.

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Let me know how you make out

Dragontales updated AutoThruster Plus with a new update entry:

Two ways to control thrust speed now

This update adds another way to control the thrust speed.

Duration Range Bias - This is still the default and allows for the plugin to randomly choose a cycle duration (within the Min and Max parameters) with a "bias" towards one end or the other. Meaning that if you have the Bias set to zero, it has a bell curve centered on the shortest duration, but can still choose durations in the range based on that bellcurve. And if it's set all the way up...

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Read the rest of this update entry...

What's the name of stockings and garter in the mp4 file ?

Would it be possible to toggle between Hip and Pelvis? Pelvis works infinitely better then hip for transferring force to the penis.

flaggjh said:

What's the name of stockings and garter in the mp4 file ?

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I'll have to get that info. If I remember correctly, they're not on the hub so likely not available.

canupoa said:

Would it be possible to toggle between Hip and Pelvis? Pelvis works infinitely better then hip for transferring force to the penis.

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It's important to note that the actual "thrust" isn't done by the hip. It's done by moving the penis base node into position and then moving it back and forth along a path designated by two points (you can turn these on to see them and/or adjust them with the plugin). The Hip sliders are just to add more body motion into the whole thing. The hip motion CAN impact the overall thrust a bit, but the main motion is done by the penis base node.

@Dragontales
Thank you bro fot the update ! Did not tried yet but will when will be next time in VAM, will report you how it does.

Looking ahead, from the rest things (not regardings to speed) - sorry i did not dig all thread - do whether did not reports someone already about strange behavior when after continuously long time of working plug in scene, when penis become by some reason like curls up (and do not want to inside) lol. I did catch this effect couple times. And if disable plug then penis align ok.
Or its just for me ?

5DVoom said:

@Dragontales
Thank you bro fot the update ! Did not tried yet but will when will be next time in VAM, will report you how it does.

Looking ahead, from the rest things (not regardings to speed) - sorry i did not dig all thread - do whether did not reports someone already about strange behavior when after continuously long time of working plug in scene, when penis become by some reason like curls up (and do not want to inside) lol. I did catch this effect couple times. And if disable plug then penis align ok.
Or its just for me ?

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I haven't seen that behavior with this plugin at all. And haven't heard anyone else having it. Are you using any other plugins that impact the penis nodes? There could be something conflicting.

Dragontales said:

I haven't seen that behavior with this plugin at all. And haven't heard anyone else having it. Are you using any other plugins that impact the penis nodes? There could be something conflicting.

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OK that good to know, will check (and yes i always use couple other plugs in stack, like Naturalis etc)

How about adding a feature, like a button in the plug-in that lets you save the settings so you can recall them later? I've made a plug-in to do just that for autothruster, it copies all the settings and pasts them into a button. You can then click the button to recall the settings. Useful for multiple poses in a scene where each need to have different settings.

This plug-in is very good but it has so many settings it makes using it for more than one pose unrealistic.

Let me know if you want my plug-in if you think it might help if you chose to add this feature.

sdfg3456 said:

How about adding a feature, like a button in the plug-in that lets you save the settings so you can recall them later? I've made a plug-in to do just that for autothruster, it copies all the settings and pasts them into a button. You can then click the button to recall the settings. Useful for multiple poses in a scene where each need to have different settings.

This plug-in is very good but it has so many settings it makes using it for more than one pose unrealistic.

Let me know if you want my plug-in if you think it might help if you chose to add this feature.

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If you're only making scenes with one or two poses, then I could see having the plugin just store them. But what you're asking for is already there. It's very easy to save a preset and load it via a trigger. I'm using it in a scene I'm creating that has over 30 poses. There's no way I could only have the plugin store one or two "settings slots" and make that work with my scene. Honestly, I don't understand how saving them in the plugin vs a preset is any different, except with the presets, you can make as many as you'd like. And even use them in other scenes. There are a lot of controls, but once you really get to understand them, it's actually fairly straightforward.

In case we're actually talking about the same thing, here's a screenshot. The save and load preset buttons are top right

5DVoom said:

OK that good to know, will check (and yes i always use couple other plugs in stack, like Naturalis etc)

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I use it with a ton of other plugins. Even naturalis. But IF you're also using it with another penis plugin of some sort, that may be causing the issue.

@Dragontales
Dragon i did check - seems all ok with the speed now - cool
But found another issue (perhaps this is somehow intersect with my described behavior) - i had some pose like doggy but it required that penis should have like near to vertical angle for penetration - so if i enable plug it produce changing aligment of "PenisBaseControl" node -by make aling it to wrong (less nice) angle.
(All values of "Extra Body Movements" section stay by default in zero during this, i did not touch anythig.)
And if disable plug, penis come back to good angle.
Can you please add option to disable such aligment please ?

5DVoom said:

@Dragontales
Dragon i did check - seems all ok with the speed now - cool
But found another issue (perhaps this is somehow intersect with my described behavior) - i had some pose like doggy but it required that penis should have like near to vertical angle for penetration - so if i enable plug it produce changing aligment of "PenisBaseControl" node -by make aling it to wrong (less nice) angle.
And if disable plug, penis come back to good angle.
Can you please add option to disable such aligment please ?

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Unfortunately no. The plugin works by aligning the penis base with the selected orifice's two targets. I'll give some thought to if it's possible to create an angle offset or something, but the issue is that this isn't real people and physics in the program often create many problems when things aren't aligned. If you want to send me a scene file of the pose I'll see what might be possible.

Dragontales said:

Unfortunately no. The plugin works by aligning the penis base with the selected orifice's two targets. I'll give some thought to if it's possible to create an angle offset or something, but the issue is that this isn't real people and physics in the program often create many problems when things aren't aligned. If you want to send me a scene file of the pose I'll see what might be possible.

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Oh damn, that sad
Ok let's i try to do something myself (and then if will no success then perhaps send your example)
But in any case thank you again for work with speed feature bro.

@Dragontales
Oh sorry for misinforming - seems you forgot to add negative value direction in constant speed (when i try to multiply this stay at zero)
Bug ?

Dragontales said:

It's important to note that the actual "thrust" isn't done by the hip. It's done by moving the penis base node into position and then moving it back and forth along a path designated by two points (you can turn these on to see them and/or adjust them with the plugin). The Hip sliders are just to add more body motion into the whole thing. The hip motion CAN impact the overall thrust a bit, but the main motion is done by the penis base node.

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Ah Ok. I'll try it out.
When I make my own motions with Timeline I tend to only have pelvis going. Hip off and all three penis joints either off or comply and then adjust with the
joint drive angles.

5DVoom said:

@Dragontales
Oh sorry for misinforming - seems you forgot to add negative value direction in constant speed (when i try to multiply this stay at zero)
Bug ?cy

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I don't know if I'm understanding....why would you need a negative speed? A thrust is either zero (no thrust) or a number higher than that. Also, the constant speed slider uses the Cycle Min and Max durations you have set. Not sure if that helps.

canupoa said:

Ah Ok. I'll try it out.
When I make my own motions with Timeline I tend to only have pelvis going. Hip off and all three penis joints either off or comply and then adjust with the
joint drive angles.

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Yeah, I mainly built this because I got tired of trying all the other method of makiing a good lookiing sex motion. Connecting body nodes got complicated and annoying and animating everything in timeline for every single position was tiresome. Try this out....there's a lot of controls and using the Extra Body motions really helps the overall realism.

Dragontales said:

If you're only making scenes with one or two poses, then I could see having the plugin just store them. But what you're asking for is already there. It's very easy to save a preset and load it via a trigger. I'm using it in a scene I'm creating that has over 30 poses. There's no way I could only have the plugin store one or two "settings slots" and make that work with my scene. Honestly, I don't understand how saving them in the plugin vs a preset is any different, except with the presets, you can make as many as you'd like. And even use them in other scenes. There are a lot of controls, but once you really get to understand them, it's actually fairly straightforward.

In case we're actually talking about the same thing, here's a screenshot. The save and load preset buttons are top right

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this is awesome, I totally missed it. Having an issue triggering the load of a preset though. I'm in VR, and it seems it wants the path or something? Can you enable a file picker to set the path to trigger the load? Button 1, triggers preset 1, button 2 triggers preset 2, etc.