Closed Lips Vagina Shape / Morph not possible in VAM ?

[Lione]

Hi

i am trying to Morph Vaginas since a longer time now and i cannot get a closed Lips Vagina which looks "original shaped" in VAM .

Isn't it possible to create a cute looking closed lips vagina with a nice round lips shape which will not result in a horrible mess once i turn the model to the side?

Really all Labida Morphs or GENs Morphs do never result in a common good looking more smaller closed Lips ( more seen with Asian Women ) or Eastern World type closed lips Female Vagina.

Can anyone in the world explain me how to create such in VAM ?

Or is there a ready Morph for that where i can also select the inner height size of the Lips ( Middle ) and also round and thick the outer lips ( kinda like a curved shaped camel Toe ) so they do not look like a entire surreal flat bread created in VAM ?

How should i even start ?

Really nothing works here.

I mean if i look at what DAZ has to offer in such beauty Vagina Shape Morphs ( for Gen 8 )
all in VAM ( of which i own as Morphs ) looks like there wouldn't be any other Vagina shapes in this world existing.

I want to create one like these which i found in Google Pics.
These are from European Women.

Here is another near similar but the first has a more rounder ( thicker ) shape.

There are tons of that but most link to Porn Sites which opens a hundred tabs once clicked so i hope you understand what i mean.

And i want the Lips to be symetric like in the first pic.

 

[TToby]

Hi Lione,
there are tons of genital morphs out there and, with a lot of time and effort, you can get close to this look. But when you pose the character to a doggystyle, or spread eagle,..., it will look like a nightmare.
Best thing to do in this case is to use the Auto Labia plugin, to make it look a bit less worse.
I even tried to do my own morphs to get this look, but there is a little you can do, because those area has not that many polygones, plus this body region is prone to extreme distortions once you bend the legs and the pelvis.
In DAZ with Genesis 8 this looks much better, because Genesis 8 has a much better automatic joint control system and more polygones at some critical parts. Can't wait for VaM v2 to come.

Edit:
As you may allready know, you can find quite a bunch of those vagina/genitalia morphs by clicking ressources/free/morphs/
The reloaded pack (at the end of the list) and the TenStrip pack are the most famous ones. There is an other genitalia pack somewhere around (discord?) that is called SkyGens or Skymorphs. You can do a lot with build-in morphs like the morph/genitals Gen_Innie or extreme expansion, but also with some of the Morph/Hip pelvis morphs and pubic area morphs, too. P.S. The longer you make the genitalia area stand out, the more likely it looks ugly with spread legs. But you may try to make the pelvis longer and lower the hip line... things like this.

 

[Lione]

Thx a lot for the Feedback and Tips.

Your Morph looks good

If someone else has Tips or Morphs to create nice Closed Lips Vagina Shapes please continue here to reply.
Its much appreciated.

 

[Trabant Dave]

Here's my attempt at neat lady bits.....

 

[Lione]

Looks nice.
What morphs did you use for creating this Look ?

 

[Matt_]

 

[TToby]

I think it is important to say, that this is not done by using one single morph, but multiple different morphs from several sections. Leg space, pelvis lenght, clitoris hood, hip shape, anus morphs, butt morphs... IMHO there is nothing like a one-fits-all perfect genitals morph, if you are not stuck with the basic shape. I often use Morph Merger to save one of my looks as one morph (most of the time to clear them manually in ZBrush). With MorphMerger I wil get automatically a full body morph and a genital morph. One could think one of those would easiely give the perfect shape in every other looks, but this is not the case. If you are a bit picky, you have to re-adjust or redo it most of the time.

 

[Lione]

Thx a lot Matt for the GIF Tutorial Hints.
Nice idea using a GIF anim for explaining
Awesome




Thx also TToby



Yes from my Side here i know its much work to let it *shine* from all sides.

Great to see people share their experiences here with their looks and helping / explaning the workflow which we can all profit from creating cute looking Gens.

Since i got my Morph Merger to work again my next goal will be traing in creating and then exporting a sxy Morph with Morph Merger using your help from another thread. Hope it works .

Please continue all you creatives showing your Shapes and workflows here

 

[Lione]

I have some more Wokflow questions

1. How do i make Region 1 a bit thicker so it bulbs a bit

so it looks more like here ?

2. Inni Line Length
Is there a Morph to lengthen or shorten just the "Inni" Shape Line ?
If i move the inni Slider it would change the entire shape.

3. Legs Movement Behaviors
I noticed, if i do the inni Morphs once the Model spreads legs the Gens stay in the INI Look Position.
Is there Plugin which lets the Vagina look natural then sprading legs ( open Vagina natural with movement ) or offer a more natural look depending
on where the legs and Hips are in this and that moment position ?

 

[TToby]

Hi Lione,
it is difficult to answer, cause I don't know which additional morph packs you have installed. With only the build-in morphs you have a very limited toolbox.
Like I said above, I would strongly recommend the "Reloaded" morph pack, the TenStrip pack and the SkyGens pack.

Area 1 can be widened by the pubic morphs under morphs/hips, for instance, but also by some waist/pelvis and genital area morphs. You can bulb it by using one of the pubic-mount morphs or by using some waist/lower stomache or even by belly or hip rotate morphs.

2: can be done by the TenStrip and the SkyGens morphs, for instance.

3: There is the AutoLabia plugin I mentioned above that spreads the vagina while spreading the legs. This is done by triggering some morphs controlled by some user-options. If you don't like those morphs, maybe you could replace them with some others in the code.

 

[Lione]

Hi TToby. Thx a lot again for helping.
I have all Packs you mentioned.

So i check for the Pubic Mount Morphs since the other did not affect the Middle "Bulb" AREA
The Auto Labia works great here thx

 

[cmramlow]

I'm really attached to this thread now after all the brilliant pics, illustrations, and copious help replies.

@Lione, if you circle back to this thread again mind posting a pic or two of your resultant cute lady innie bit outcome?

 

[motorcityclimber]

(1) Morphs - female mons morphs | Virt-A-Mate Hub (virtamate.com)

i usually use these morphs to make mine. link above, search gm for morphs.

 

[motorcityclimber]

also try some auto labia and theres a few other gens plugins that help

 

[Lione]

I'm really attached to this thread now after all the brilliant pics, illustrations, and copious help replies.

@Lione, if you circle back to this thread again mind posting a pic or two of your resultant cute lady innie bit outcome?

Sure once i learned enough and created my Morph Sets
Currently i am still trying out things.
Most annoying is that once i created a sxy shape i forgot how i started lol.
A morph macro recorder would be so great for such brain mess.

And i also realized its not just the closed lips beauty you also have to care how it looks then from all sides.
And also the smooth passes.
Best is 4
3 is also good but anything less looks not acceptable.

And agree plugins like "auto labia" are mandatory in my opinion.
Not only for closed lips vagina shaped gens.

I just stumbled on this new look release

Looks - Justine Remixed

A remixed look of the Justine look by Peta Zwega! Uploaded with his blessing and approval. Feel free to join my discord if you want! I will be sharing WiP stuff on looks and scenes, "inspirational content", and also can offer VaM help and tips...

hub.virtamate.com

Like the puffy left right lips here in the middle pic.
Dunno if it the lightning but it looks so nicy "rounded"
Have to check the look morphs closer.

Actually the Vagina Shape here is confusing me a bit since the leanback angle makes it look more inni while default its not so much.


I played around a bit and found "Genital Mound" and Ten Strip Morphs "Gen Zone Flatten" which also offers a nice effect once reduced.

As a compare

Default

Reduced flatten -800 to -1000 which slims the Lips and rounds them a bit more while moving a bit more togther.

 

[cmramlow]

I rarely download looks but yours is a must have man. Very nice "lady bits" pix and I really appreciate the how-to guide so I can try to recreate your process and look as it's not easily obtained....I do wonder why from the back, as seen on image 3, the realism and shape seems to not look as dialed in as the other angles....the back view appears to always be the most challenging for me as the taint to vag area just never looks realistic. I suppose that's the next area for us to try and concur since you appeared to have nail the closed lips look

 

[EMPIR]

I have some more Wokflow questions

1. How do i make Region 1 a bit thicker so it bulbs a bit

so it looks more like here ?

2. Inni Line Length
Is there a Morph to lengthen or shorten just the "Inni" Shape Line ?
If i move the inni Slider it would change the entire shape.

3. Legs Movement Behaviors
I noticed, if i do the inni Morphs once the Model spreads legs the Gens stay in the INI Look Position.
Is there Plugin which lets the Vagina look natural then sprading legs ( open Vagina natural with movement ) or offer a more natural look depending
on where the legs and Hips are in this and that moment position ?

Nice pussy images. Source?