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Hair surface subscene

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Hair surface subscene
cover image for subscene

This is a subscene with 9 capsule atoms to use as a surface for hair collision.
It's a very simple subscene, easy to make, but sometimes these small things are neglected and likely there's many around that would find it useful, so here it is.​


What is this for?

If you ever positioned a person on a bed and watched the hair go through it, you know it looks like shit. If you didn't know why it did that it's because hair only collides with some atoms and goes through all others, even with collision set to "on".
These atom types collide with hair:
  • Sphere
  • Capsule
  • Slate
  • Possibly some other specialized atoms like floors, etc

Capsules

In most situations you are looking to use a flat surface to collide with hair, and there the Slate atom would seem like the best option of the list above. It starts big but you can reduce the scale to a more suitable one.
Unfortunately the Slate atom can let hair pass through depending on the speed that the hair collides, and this "leak" probably is dependable on the hair used. Comparing with the capsules, these are much more reliable and "leak-proof" than the slate, and in so I would suggest the use of capsules over a slate for reliability.

Tests done after communication that the Slate had different qualities than what I had written earlier. Feel free to also test the slate/capsules methods, compare and discuss the results in the Discussion area. Thank you ?‍♂️

Capsules in action:

subscene in action
subscene in action
subscene in action
Capsules colliding with hair
Capsules colliding with hair but not with body
Capsules colliding with hair and invisible


Instructions

Load the subscene in your scene and move it to the place where hair would normally sink through the material (bed for example). The capsules at the end are visible while the others in between are already set invisible (Materials > alpha adjust: -1) and set to "hidden" (atom control). When it's in place you can change the end capsules to invisible and hidden like show above.

You can also detach the capsules from the subscene when you're happy with the position, and remove the subscene atom. Alternatively, you can just uncheck position/rotation grabbing and set it hidden if you still want to make potential changes to the capsules.

Need more than one set of 9 capsules? Easy, load another subscene of HairSurface.


End remarks and credits

The capsules are all set with collision off. This is done to have no collision with atoms, like a person or a bed, but it will still collide with hair.

I don't recall who told me about hair collision, probably was more than one person, so thank you all who share good tips on the Hub and Discord.
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Just found out about this, ty very much; very useful.
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great idea
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yeah. nice tip, i am using the same. This Hair glitch really fucks up sometime.
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And makes the fucking weirder seeing ghost hair go through the bed
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Pretty nice. I've been using similar setup myself, but it's nice to see someone doing nice subscene for everyone to use. Showing only edge capsules is a good solution as well.
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Yeah, it's something that if you know about it you already use in some form, but if you don't it's a mistery why the hair goes through. It's a mix of guide and resource I guess.
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Its a simple but classy way to make those bed or lay down scenes look great. Thanks.
atani
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Just like me, except for the classy part ?
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Ahh man this is great! ???
atani
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For all the blue capsules hair pillow lovers out there ?
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An old must have trick, I keep several subscenes of capsules of my own for different sizes. Pretty sure I learned about it studying one of your scenes long time ago.
atani
atani
I've been using this for a while now after learning about it from someone else's scene probably. Even though this takes only a minute to make from scratch, I realised that others may not know about it at all, so here it is to be more widely known.
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This is incredible! I dont know how long I waited for such a feature in VAM! Thank you so much for sharing it!!!
atani
atani
Turns out the feature was there all along but just slightly mentioned in some places. Glad this helps the visibility.
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This is great, thank you. I did not know hair collides with shape objects. The technique also works really well for closeup scenes where you're embody-ing someone laying down, using a sphere to keep hair out of your face.
atani
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Uhh, that's a good tip. Cheers for that.
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Thank you, this is a game changer for the way my scenes will look, no more awesome looking hair appearance being taken by a bed
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atani
Viva la revolución ?
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