One Facial Expression animation to rule them all

[henshin]

I need help please

I think the most important thing for a good immersive experience are the facial expressions
Many animations/mocap are really good, but facial expressions are weird and even creepy (mouth too big, or scary faces etc)

I was thinking in creating a good facial animation (for sex scenes at least) and then merge that to any scene (and replace any other facial animation it has already)

I was reading a lot and trying multiple solutions but I cannot find a way to do it.

This is what I've tried:

- Creating facial animation from real porn videos:
I've tried this Dollars Motion Facial Capture plugin:

Dollars Motion & Facial Capture - Paid Plugins -

This plugin can integrate the following Dollars MoCap products with VAM characters, Dollars MONO: Real-time full-body and facial motion capture with finger tracking using a webcam or video files. Dollars DEEP: Enhanced motion capture...

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The results was not good
There is a discussion here:

I found Ai / machine learning to convert video to mocap

Here's a tutorial using Deepmotion with a Daz3d G2 figure, I tried it with a shutterstock video and it works great. Once you've gone thru the process with a G2 figure you can save it in DeepMotion so you can apply other video feeds.

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- Randomize morphs:
I've tried plugins like Expression Randomizer, but it has limitations (I want to mix some morphs some times, and also define different limits for different morphs etc)
So I've tried FloatParamRandomizerEE with LogicBricks (I create timer and random logic to choose different random morphs etc)
I'm near with this solution, but not so natural as a real mocap


I'm completely lost with this:

Is possible to "remove" any facial animation from the scene? (so I can replate with my own).
It's easy when the animation comes from a plugin like Expression Randomizer, but what if it's inside Timeline plugin?

Is possible to "export" (extract/save) only the facial animation from timeline plugin?
Maybe to use good facial animations from some scenes into another scenes

 

[Clownmug]

Is possible to "remove" any facial animation from the scene? (so I can replate with my own).
It's easy when the animation comes from a plugin like Expression Randomizer, but what if it's inside Timeline plugin?

For the Timeline plugin if there are any facial animations it would be from "geometry" targets if you look at the "Targets" tab. Removing targets for morphs/geometry like "Eyes Closed", "Flirting", etc. should remove any facial animations.

After removing animations if you want to quickly reset a face then ky1001's PoseLoader plugin is really good for this. All you have to do is press "Reset Facial Expressions" button with "Reset Expression Morphs" checked at the bottom of the UI. It doesn't work for all custom morphs though so you might still have to manually look for active morphs.

Is possible to "export" (extract/save) only the facial animation from timeline plugin?
Maybe to use good facial animations from some scenes into another scenes

Just do like above except remove targets for everything else instead, then export animation from the "More..." tab.

 

[henshin]

For the Timeline plugin if there are any facial animations it would be from "geometry" targets if you look at the "Targets" tab. Removing targets for morphs/geometry like "Eyes Closed", "Flirting", etc. should remove any facial animations.

After removing animations if you want to quickly reset a face then ky1001's PoseLoader plugin is really good for this. All you have to do is press "Reset Facial Expressions" button with "Reset Expression Morphs" checked at the bottom of the UI. It doesn't work for all custom morphs though so you might still have to manually look for active morphs.



Just do like above except remove targets for everything else instead, then export animation from the "More..." tab.

Thanks! I've tried with a scene (kitty mocap) and even when removed the 3 timeline plugins from the female she continues with the animation, and male has no plugin but he moves too, do you know why?

 

[Clownmug]

Thanks! I've tried with a scene (kitty mocap) and even when removed the 3 timeline plugins from the female she continues with the animation, and male has no plugin but he moves too, do you know why?

As far as I know KittyMocap's scenes all use VaM's builtin scene animation for the main portion and just use the Timeline plugin for extra animations on top of it.

 

[henshin]

As far as I know KittyMocap's scenes all use VaM's builtin scene animation for the main portion and just use the Timeline plugin for extra animations on top of it.

Do you know how to remove the facial animation in that case?