VaM 1.x Moving subscene that has Timeline coordinates

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Anand

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Help. AI's hallucinatory answers are driving me insane. Please, I need an answer from a real person.

So I found a cool scene with a single character in a studio with a bunch of poses for a photoshoot. So I thought, it would be cool to have the two members of a singing duo I like, posing side by side.

I suspected that this could be achieved via subscenes so I read a bunch of stuff. Then I asked AI for a step by step How To. I created a subscene and parented the buttons/triggers and the character to the subscene. I saved it and loaded a new (duplicate) subscene and offset it. AI told me that subscenes would isolate the buttons and trigger names and that the modern Timeline would handle coordinate translation. WRONG.

As soon as I pressed one button - boom. Tesselation hurricane. Massive collisions. Basically, subscenes do NOT localize naming of buttons and triggers - meaning pressing one button triggered both characters to do the same animation. But the worst part is that world coordinates are preserved so the two characters that I physically separated (offset left and right) instantly snapped to the same original coordinates triggering massive collisions.

I kept going back to AI for assistance and it started inventing new features of VAM and Timeline that don't exist and telling me to install plugins that don't do what AI thinks it does. I am at my wits end. Is there a simple way to do this? What started out to be a fun little concept is growing into tedious homework. Help
 
I think a subscene is not needed and complicates things for this case.
The first thing you should do when experimenting copying animations of one person to another in the same scene is to disable collision on one of them. This will avoid explosions and you can continue to experiment until you get it right.

Things to check for in Timeline:
  • person root as a target
  • saved poses
And check what the button triggers do too of course.

From the homework will come knowledge and experience you can apply on the next project, don't forget ;)
 
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