Plugins + Scripts DeeperPlugin

[boris47]

boris47 updated DeeperPlugin with a new update entry:

Hotfix for GenCollidersFixerwhrn person atom is scaled

In this hotfix the colliders handled by GenCollidersFixer keep now the proportions if the atom has different scale otherwhen one.

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[boris47]

boris47 updated DeeperPlugin with a new update entry:

Hotfix for Penis controllers

I apologize first for this oversight, I'll try to pay more attention in the future.

In this hotfix I'm removing some prototyping code, some of my past attempts, nevel meant to be delivered actually.

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[boris47]

boris47 updated DeeperPlugin with a new update entry:

Fix and improvements

- Fixed quick button link if both session and scene instance exists
- Fixed and issue where some morphs where stored in timeline pose
(Added a step where older version of Deeper morphs are reset at beginning)
- Improved the Genital bulge morphs times

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[MDGeist]

Just want to point out the "GlutesEnlargerCustom" morph for the anus drives the physics from bootymagic crazy, especially with the "fat pressure multiplier" from naturalis/bootymagic.
And amazing its finally a scene plugin option

 

[RonBurgundy]

I was messing with Foosts Sexyfluids and noticed that the top is offset by 90 degrees to the right

I'm thinking it's either the gensbones fixer or the colliderfixer that must be doing it.

example

I had to compensate in his plugin by setting the LEFT/RIGHT rotation to -90 but Foost said that something with your plugin is causing the tip to be oriented incorrectly.
I figured i'd bring it to your attention

 

[Foost]

I had a look at this the other day and that's because SexyFluids uses the AutoColliderGen3b/AutoColliderGen3bHard collider for the attachment of the fluid emitter. Other particle emitter plugins I looked at just use the Gen3 rigidbody directly with a manual forward offset to move the emitter more to the tip. And DeeperPlugin's Gen Colliders Fixer feature will modify and rotate this autocollider, so it ends up pointing sideways.

However, there is probably not much reason to fix this. In the upcoming update to SexyFluids I will completely change how the emitters are positioned. Everything will be based on the actual visual geometry and not colliders. So this won't be an issue anymore.

 

[boris47]

boris47 updated DeeperPlugin with a new update entry:

Preset system improved now with storable action, new ISCylinder penetrator item

- Removed any modifier for rotation and position of fluids emitters of other plugins, so user have to handle them manually, as originally meant by plugins creators;
- Preset System improved:
- Added storable action so a preset can be loaded from file;
- The preset files hold info about the view where they are stored, but can be
loaded from everywhere using said action or dedicated button in user interface;
- Added support for primitive (Shape) ISCylinder;
(Need to be...

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[boris47]

Just want to point out the "GlutesEnlargerCustom" morph for the anus drives the physics from bootymagic crazy, especially with the "fat pressure multiplier" from naturalis/bootymagic.
And amazing its finally a scene plugin option

Hi MDGeist, thank you for the information, if this morph create problem with other plugins, you can remove it's effect by settin weight to zero selecting Modules -> Enlarger -> Anus -> Morphs (GlutesEnlargerCustom) -> Weight move slider to zero.
Having Deeper search for other plugin and auto manage self parameters was my initial intent, but in many cases I've now learned that such choices should be given to user insted.

@RonBurgundy @Foost In the latest Deeper release I removed the feature that was handling the positioning and rotation of emitters; Was not my intention to create any issue and furthermore it should not be Deeper responsability to handle those external gameobjects.

 

[RonBurgundy]

This might be too much to ask for but do you think it would be possible to make triggers that we can configure for each level of depth in say the Bulger for example?
for each of the bulger depths we could have the option to trigger something.
That would be so much more flexible than the built-in depth triggers (vagina, deep, deeper)

For example, imagine something like this emissive plus demo with a segmented tattoo with multiple levels would be cool

 

[fear_the_potato]

Well. This is amazing.

 

[boris47]

Hi RonBurgundy, at the moment Deeper exposes for each person atom two float storables "Modules || Receiver || Max Oral Penetration Normalized" and "Modules || Receiver || Max Genital Penetration Normalized".
Those values, because normalized, have range 0 -> 1, where 0 equals to "no penetration" and 1 equals to "fully penetrated", meant relative to the receiving atom.

And if you want levels, in my next release, 1.1.4, the Triggers Module can offer you what yoy asking now

 

[RonBurgundy]

Hi RonBurgundy, at the moment Deeper exposes for each person atom two float storables "Modules || Receiver || Max Oral Penetration Normalized" and "Modules || Receiver || Max Genital Penetration Normalized".
Those values, because normalized, have range 0 -> 1, where 0 equals to "no penetration" and 1 equals to "fully penetrated", meant relative to the receiving atom.

And if you want levels, in my next release, 1.1.4, the Triggers Module can offer you what yoy asking now

please check my message to you when you get a chance, was experimenting with depths and making tattoos

i think these marks line up with the proper triggers

 

[Dombl]

I've been having some trouble with DiviningForeskin, and after digging around a bit I found that this plugin is probably unintentionally rotating the trigger colliders, somehow, when trigger adaptation is enabled.
I don't really see any reason why it SHOULD, since all I find under the adaptation part of the plugin is code touching localPosition. Even weirder, when I track the colliders' localEulerAngles, I see that they keep rotating even when I turn "(S) Triggers Adaptation" off, but they stay fixed in their last rotation when I turn "Enabled" in the same screen off.
I've attached my monitor plugin just so we can see if anyone else can replicate this or if there's a conflict with something I haven't found to turn off.

At least the mouth colliders should be easy to fix, since they seem to start out with all angles at zero, but I remember having the same issue with Divining's chest tracking as well in an earlier version, but I haven't noticed anything obvious for a while, so that may already have been fixed.

Another tiny issue I've had is the custom belly button colliders seem to be way too powerful, causing any poses with someone laying flat on their front to bounce violently as the colliders clip into the surface underneath. Anyone else have this?

 

[boris47]

I've been having some trouble with DiviningForeskin, and after digging around a bit I found that this plugin is probably unintentionally rotating the trigger colliders, somehow, when trigger adaptation is enabled.
I don't really see any reason why it SHOULD, since all I find under the adaptation part of the plugin is code touching localPosition. Even weirder, when I track the colliders' localEulerAngles, I see that they keep rotating even when I turn "(S) Triggers Adaptation" off, but they stay fixed in their last rotation when I turn "Enabled" in the same screen off.
I've attached my monitor plugin just so we can see if anyone else can replicate this or if there's a conflict with something I haven't found to turn off.

At least the mouth colliders should be easy to fix, since they seem to start out with all angles at zero, but I remember having the same issue with Divining's chest tracking as well in an earlier version, but I haven't noticed anything obvious for a while, so that may already have been fixed.

Another tiny issue I've had is the custom belly button colliders seem to be way too powerful, causing any poses with someone laying flat on their front to bounce violently as the colliders clip into the surface underneath. Anyone else have this?

Hi Dombl,

I've looked into the trigger issue, and it turns out Unity does modify the rotation of trigger colliders along with their localPosition — magic, right?
I'm working on a fix and aiming to have it resolved in the next release. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

Regarding the belly button colliders:
In most cases where I’ve seen that bulge effect — especially when it’s strong — it ends up pushing the entire upper body away from surfaces, as it moves all the belly and chest autocolliders.
The solution would be to reduce or remove the bulge effect, or to adjust the surface colliders so that the belly area doesn’t come into contact with the surface.
My advice, if applicable, is to use Gen Colliders Fixer and Smart Colliders toghether, and disable or reduce Bulger effect on receiver, this sould reduce/remove the bouncing.

 

[boris47]

boris47 updated DeeperPlugin with a new update entry:

Many fixes and improvements

1.1.3

Better native trigger handling:
Now along default triggers handling (Fixed rotation bug), I added another set of triggers placed along entire penetration curved.

Receiver module now supports oral and genital triggers.

Fixed un-proportioned genital enlargment.

Found another, I hope final, solution to prevent morphs to be stored.

Fixed Penis Fixed Colliders way out of supposed radius .

Extended bulger morphs with another set of morphs for wider penetrators.

Preset system full...

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[BStarG2]

I just want to say THANK YOU, boris47, for the latest update! It's amazing! It works very well (even better than before). The new Bulge morphs are fantastic! I am very grateful for your time, and your work sir; this plugin - in my opinion - is now pretty much essential.

 

[Hun73rdk]

Changing out the model in the scene breaks the bulger and trying to reload it makes vam crash

 

[Dombl]

Regarding the belly button colliders:
In most cases where I’ve seen that bulge effect...

I don't think we are thinking of the same feature here, since this applies immediately to any pose where the belly contacts a surface. Attached a demo video, where turning on the custom belly button colliders starts jittering immediately.
I think I mainly noticed it because of messing with the mass of the character makes the effect much stronger.

Digging into the guts of the matter, I think it might be because the custom colliders are CapsuleColliders parented to an AutoColliderGroup. Taking a quick look through ColliderEditor (I've edited in a toggle for the update function to make it stop returning Deeper's size changes, just to clarify that's not what's happening here), most of the body is made up of AutoColliders, while the Collider group is usually called "HardCollider" something, and contain collider placed deep into the body or ones expected to interact more directly with things, like arms, hands and feet.
I'm not sure if it's because the game doesn't expect things to get attached to the Group this way and giving it more authority than it should (It obviously works, since everything parents and starts moving), or if the collider type is unsuited to this purpose.
I've been looking at the code for AutoColliders and Groups, but it's a bit to work through. I can see that it does mention HardColliders at some points, but they don't seem to be part of the same branch in the object hierarchy, so I'm not sure if they are the same kind HardColliders. They could be how forces get transferred from the Group's colliders? They could be an irrelevant optional thing not used by all Groups?
By the looks of it, the main reason for AutoColliders seems to be linking them with a joint so they can deform a bit, so it may be worth figuring out if you can add new custom AutoColliders instead. Another option would be to see if you can attach the colliders to one of the AutoColliders in the group instead, if it allows multiple colliders.

Happy hunting!

 

[Ulfberto]

This plugin used to dynamically adjust the "Force Tip to Target" from DiviningRod. It's not working anymore? What is the option inside of the plugin that controls this slider?

 

[pernus]

Heya! I was wondering if I might have missed where further documentation / info is on how to get up and running with this plugin?
I've read through the description but if there is more info elsewhere Id be keen to read through that

 

[boris47]

Changing out the model in the scene breaks the bulger and trying to reload it makes vam crash

Hi Hun73rdk, this is priority one to me now.
Can you please explain, using more details, what you do to cause the ctd?

This plugin used to dynamically adjust the "Force Tip to Target" from DiviningRod. It's not working anymore? What is the option inside of the plugin that controls this slider?

Hi Ulfberto, I removed it because I want to leave the full control of scene elements to creators, but in the next release i'm reinserting it but disabled, so optionally it could be used as desired.

Heya! I was wondering if I might have missed where further documentation / info is on how to get up and running with this plugin?
I've read through the description but if there is more info elsewhere Id be keen to read through that

Hi pernus,
This is mainly a session plugin, but now is adapted to be used as scene plugin as well.
In order to use it you need to:
- (If you require Deeper as session plugin) Go to session plugins tab, add a new plugin and choose Boris47.Deeper from the list.

- (If you require Deeper as scene plugin) Pretty much a session plugin, just in the Scene Plugins tab

Deeper can have two instances running, one scene and one session at time, in that case, scene plugin has autority over session one.

Once the plugin is attached, all the logic runs on loaded scenes, for every supported atom (at the moment Person, Dildo, some shapes and some CUAs, overview page should cover better that this part)

 

[boris47]

I don't think we are thinking of the same feature here, since this applies immediately to any pose where the belly contacts a surface. Attached a demo video, where turning on the custom belly button colliders starts jittering immediately.
I think I mainly noticed it because of messing with the mass of the character makes the effect much stronger.

Digging into the guts of the matter, I think it might be because the custom colliders are CapsuleColliders parented to an AutoColliderGroup. Taking a quick look through ColliderEditor (I've edited in a toggle for the update function to make it stop returning Deeper's size changes, just to clarify that's not what's happening here), most of the body is made up of AutoColliders, while the Collider group is usually called "HardCollider" something, and contain collider placed deep into the body or ones expected to interact more directly with things, like arms, hands and feet.
I'm not sure if it's because the game doesn't expect things to get attached to the Group this way and giving it more authority than it should (It obviously works, since everything parents and starts moving), or if the collider type is unsuited to this purpose.
I've been looking at the code for AutoColliders and Groups, but it's a bit to work through. I can see that it does mention HardColliders at some points, but they don't seem to be part of the same branch in the object hierarchy, so I'm not sure if they are the same kind HardColliders. They could be how forces get transferred from the Group's colliders? They could be an irrelevant optional thing not used by all Groups?
By the looks of it, the main reason for AutoColliders seems to be linking them with a joint so they can deform a bit, so it may be worth figuring out if you can add new custom AutoColliders instead. Another option would be to see if you can attach the colliders to one of the AutoColliders in the group instead, if it allows multiple colliders.

Happy hunting!

Hi Dombl, in my next release i'm goint to temporary remove the BellyButtonCustomColliders Feature for more testing before re-enabling them.
I'm trying to achieve an autocollider behaviour but plugin managed, and unity configurable joints are quite hard to understand for me right now.

 

[Hun73rdk]

Hi Hun73rdk, this is priority one to me now.
Can you please explain, using more details, what you do to cause the ctd?

Hi Ulfberto, I removed it because I want to leave the full control of scene elements to creators, but in the next release i'm reinserting it but disabled, so optionally it could be used as desired.

Hi pernus,
This is mainly a session plugin, but now is adapted to be used as scene plugin as well.
In order to use it you need to:
- (If you require Deeper as session plugin) Go to session plugins tab, add a new plugin and choose Boris47.Deeper from the list.
View attachment 505494
- (If you require Deeper as scene plugin) Pretty much a session plugin, just in the Scene Plugins tab
View attachment 505495

Deeper can have two instances running, one scene and one session at time, in that case, scene plugin has autority over session one.

Once the plugin is attached, all the logic runs on loaded scenes, for every supported atom (at the moment Person, Dildo, some shapes and some CUAs, overview page should cover better that this part)

I just change the model and the bulging stops working and i set the plugin as scene plugin

 

[autopilot2786]

Just wanted to elaborate for the model changing thing (assuming that we have the same thing happening): if you load a new appearance Deeper stops completely. I can hit the Recreate button in your plugin and everything starts working again (but it's annoying if anything has changed from default).

I was also wondering if you can elaborate on what you meant by saved in appearance -- I haven't seen anything to that effect in the files and I am wondering if I misunderstood.

 

[Tnixnl]

Thanks for this amazing plugin!
Now, what I'm trying to achieve is a bit of physical resistance at some depth(s) down the throat.
This would keep the penis/dildo from penetrating any further.
After waiting some time or applying some force, the resistance would give way and the penis would pop in.
Would this be possible to achieve with the DeeperPlugin?