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DeeperPlugin

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boris47

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boris47 submitted a new resource:

DeeperPlugin - Deep, big penis, bulge, collider

I spent the last years trying to create a plugin that could help with massive penetration and increase stability and performance at same time.

So here it is, my creation, Deeper plugin.
Most of the time it can handle automagically things for you, but for the ones that require some tuning, I exposed an incredible number of variable to help them.
Almost everything exposed can be a variable in timeline.
This plugin pack some morphs I collected around from notorius creators, whose I really...
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Hi, @boris47

This discussion tab was missing and I pointed it out to the mods. There's another resource of yours with the same issue and that's pending a fix too.
This place is very useful for people to comment about your plugin, and that's what I wanted to do until I realised I couldn't.

I did not try your plugin yet, but wanted to give you feedback on how you can make it more popular by improving the main page:
  • the cover image looks like a screenshot of a scene and has no connection to what your plugin does, consider a more suitable cover
  • add a couple of lines at the beginning to say what the plugin is for and what it does, something simple that anyone can see cearly and understand in a few seconds
 
playing around with it on an existing scene with a bunch of other plugins to see if it can play nice with little adjustments. broke damn near everything, even something as basic as penis alignment. which is an achievement since i usually found ways to compromise between plugins with similar functions

  • autogensthruster - only used for alignment. deeper hijacks it, but for some reason does not even do the job of keeping genitals aligned at all
  • expression blushing and tears - suppresses everything outside of its functions. not surprising penis support + deeper just confuses the hell out of where the penis is supposed to be. penis support off (aka use deeper's aligning helper by itself) doesn't do anything, playing with autoradius mult doesn't do anything
  • autobulger - also hijacked by deeper. deeper's implementation works, but doesn't do visible in/outs and just bulges the belly in place. pretty sure it's a consequence of penis alignment not working, but limited adjustable options to compensate in deeper as far as i can determine (manually adjusting genital depth override can simulate what autobulger's doing, but *manual* really?)
  • bodylanguage - no conflicts so far, but maybe because i've disabled anything not related to pose saving there. pretty sure the atoms would go haywire almost immediately if fillmeup forces + deeper are both active at the same time
  • performance improvements? potato computer, never noticed anything, neither better nor worse

tl;dr you might be better off starting scenes from scratch instead of trying to integrate the plugins
 
borniketok5000 said:
playing around with it on an existing scene with a bunch of other plugins to see if it can play nice with little adjustments. broke damn near everything, even something as basic as penis alignment. which is an achievement since i usually found ways to compromise between plugins with similar functions

  • autogensthruster - only used for alignment. deeper hijacks it, but for some reason does not even do the job of keeping genitals aligned at all
  • expression blushing and tears - suppresses everything outside of its functions. not surprising penis support + deeper just confuses the hell out of where the penis is supposed to be. penis support off (aka use deeper's aligning helper by itself) doesn't do anything, playing with autoradius mult doesn't do anything
  • autobulger - also hijacked by deeper. deeper's implementation works, but doesn't do visible in/outs and just bulges the belly in place. pretty sure it's a consequence of penis alignment not working, but limited adjustable options to compensate in deeper as far as i can determine (manually adjusting genital depth override can simulate what autobulger's doing, but *manual* really?)
  • bodylanguage - no conflicts so far, but maybe because i've disabled anything not related to pose saving there. pretty sure the atoms would go haywire almost immediately if fillmeup forces + deeper are both active at the same time
  • performance improvements? potato computer, never noticed anything, neither better nor worse

tl;dr you might be better off starting scenes from scratch instead of trying to integrate the plugins
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I've had none of the problems you're describing. Alignment can be solved with DiviningForeskin (DiviningRod but better). Also why are you testing autobulger with Deeper? Deeper has a bulger feature built into it that is better than autobulger from my experience. Now onto BodyLanguage. The fillmeup forces work fine with Deeper. I've had no issues on that front.
 
You should make this "all the way through" and have the cock come out of their mouth option.
 
borniketok5000 said:
playing around with it on an existing scene with a bunch of other plugins to see if it can play nice with little adjustments. broke damn near everything, even something as basic as penis alignment. which is an achievement since i usually found ways to compromise between plugins with similar functions

  • autogensthruster - only used for alignment. deeper hijacks it, but for some reason does not even do the job of keeping genitals aligned at all
  • expression blushing and tears - suppresses everything outside of its functions. not surprising penis support + deeper just confuses the hell out of where the penis is supposed to be. penis support off (aka use deeper's aligning helper by itself) doesn't do anything, playing with autoradius mult doesn't do anything
  • autobulger - also hijacked by deeper. deeper's implementation works, but doesn't do visible in/outs and just bulges the belly in place. pretty sure it's a consequence of penis alignment not working, but limited adjustable options to compensate in deeper as far as i can determine (manually adjusting genital depth override can simulate what autobulger's doing, but *manual* really?)
  • bodylanguage - no conflicts so far, but maybe because i've disabled anything not related to pose saving there. pretty sure the atoms would go haywire almost immediately if fillmeup forces + deeper are both active at the same time
  • performance improvements? potato computer, never noticed anything, neither better nor worse

tl;dr you might be better off starting scenes from scratch instead of trying to integrate the plugins
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Hi borniketok5000, I'm very surprised about all you said after all the test I'v done, loading other creators' scenes, creating my owns.
This not means my plugin is perfect, as I said in the overview I'm open to listen people to improve this plugin.

-Genital alignment is a complex goal, and you are right by design and testing I chosed to handle some cases like what autogensthruster do. What you define 'hijack' has been removed in version 1.0.4, it was a plus of a plus, so no problem to touch that part.
- expression blushing and tears: I'm investigating right now about my plugin and scenes with expression blushing and tears plugin, last thing I want is conflicts between plugins
- autobulger: Initial idea was to replace the effect with my morphs and logic, using the autobulger plugin values and disabling it, since v1.0.1 this is different, user get to choose.
- bodylanguage is a nice feature plugin, although is quite a difficult plugin to play along in term of compatibility as developer (tbh), I investigated around before my distribution and at this very moment my plugin and BL plugin can work together nicely. My plugin does not apply forces the same way like BL, if you encounter physics expplosion 99% is not my plugin to cause it, that's for sure.
- About performance i'm not sure about what you are referring to: many hours spent to reduce cpu and memory consumtion. If you are encountering heavy performance issues with my plugin, you can try turning useless thing off and see if anything goes better.
I have both a power pc and a quite old notebook, used both for testing the performance inpact and improve critical parts, but if there is an area you say is causing perf problems let me know and I'll try to improve that area.
 
Murkywaters677 said:
I've had none of the problems you're describing. Alignment can be solved with DiviningForeskin (DiviningRod but better). Also why are you testing autobulger with Deeper? Deeper has a bulger feature built into it that is better than autobulger from my experience. Now onto BodyLanguage. The fillmeup forces work fine with Deeper. I've had no issues on that front.
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Hi Murkywaters677, about my plugin features, by design everything is optional, so the user/creator can choose what plugin use to do things.
I'm glad you like the bulger module efffect I programmed, it's programmed around my curve system and usually far more acccurate than autobulger that operate in other ways, but I understand result may not be the desired one.


That said, I'm glad you like my plugin and support it :)
 
marlowInc said:
You should make this "all the way through" and have the cock come out of their mouth option.
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Hi marlowInc, this could be possible maybe in vam 2 with more-three-bones penis :) .
I watched a lot of reference video aound, animated scenes and 3d scenes, and vam, from this point of view, even if cmplex and very capable, have the genesis 2 limitation, quite obsolete nowdays.
Maybe with vam 2 and stronger capabilities for complex models this could be achieved, I'm looking forward for it. (y)
 
BIG plugin love it! You should definitely collab with crablikecrab for the final plugin! Still cant decide what to use xD
 
boris47 updated DeeperPlugin with a new update entry:

Various fixes and improvements

Bulger genital size is computed everytime, no more stored value.
I strongly reccomand creator and user to: when creating morphs not essetial to the apperance (breath, grip, foreskin, closed/open eyes), to set them as pose morphs.
This simplify everything on three fronts:
- Every time a vertex is modified by non pose morphs, interested autocolliders are recalculated, along with other heavy computation.
It's true that vam uses threads to split heavy jobs and avoid poor performance, but...
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Is this conflict with other plugin?

WeightedMorphSetterBase: Cannot load morph "AWWalker.AWWalker_GEN_Morphs_Minora.1:/Custom/Atom/Person/Morphs/female_genitalia/AWWalker/AWWalker_GEN_Morphs_Minora/AWW_Left_Minora_Back_3_Down.vmi"
!> WeightedMorphSetterBase: Cannot load morph "AWWalker.AWWalker_GEN_Morphs_Minora.1:/Custom/Atom/Person/Morphs/female_genitalia/AWWalker/AWWalker_GEN_Morphs_Minora/AWW_Right_Minora_Back_3_Down.vmi"
!> WeightedMorphSetterBase: Cannot load morph "AWWalker.AWWalker_GEN_Morphs_Minora.1:/Custom/Atom/Person/Morphs/female_genitalia/AWWalker/AWWalker_GEN_Morphs_Minora/AWW_Left_Minora_Middle_1_Down.vmi"
!> WeightedMorphSetterBase: Cannot load morph "AWWalker.AWWalker_GEN_Morphs_Minora.1:/Custom/Atom/Person/Morphs/female_genitalia/AWWalker/AWWalker_GEN_Morphs_Minora/AWW_Left_Minora_Middle_2_Down.vmi"
!> WeightedMorphSetterBase: Cannot load morph "AWWalker.AWWalker_GEN_Morphs_Minora.1:/Custom/Atom/Person/Morphs/female_genitalia/AWWalker/AWWalker_GEN_Morphs_Minora/AWW_Right_Minora_Middle_1_Down.vmi"
!> WeightedMorphSetterBase: Cannot load morph "AWWalker.AWWalker_GEN_Morphs_Minora.1:/Custom/Atom/Person/Morphs/female_genitalia/AWWalker/AWWalker_GEN_Morphs_Minora/AWW_Right_Minora_Middle_2_Down.vmi"
!> WeightedMorphSetterBase: Cannot load morph "AWWalker.AWWalker_GEN_Morphs_Minora.1:/Custom/Atom/Person/Morphs/female_genitalia/AWWalker/AWWalker_GEN_Morphs_Minora/AWW_Left_Minora_Front_Down.vmi"
!> WeightedMorphSetterBase: Cannot load morph "AWWalker.AWWalker_GEN_Morphs_Minora.1:/Custom/Atom/Person/Morphs/female_genitalia/AWWalker/AWWalker_GEN_Morphs_Minora/AWW_Right_Minora_Front_Down.vmi"
 
boris47 updated DeeperPlugin with a new update entry:

Dildo collider hanling, genital morphs of penetration, and some fizes

Added support for smart colliders to bildo toy.

Genital morph for pussy and anus to make penetration in and out more visible, only visible with penetrators with a minimum size, small thing cannot create that effect even in reality :).
As always, override sliders can help see the effect outside rough action.
Atom -> Module -> Body Morphers -> Penetration Morphers -> Vagina OR Anus Morphers -> Level Morphs : Morphs Override
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vasyapupkin96 said:
Is this conflict with other plugin?

WeightedMorphSetterBase: Cannot load morph "AWWalker.AWWalker_GEN_Morphs_Minora.1:/Custom/Atom/Person/Morphs/female_genitalia/AWWalker/AWWalker_GEN_Morphs_Minora/AWW_Left_Minora_Back_3_Down.vmi"
!> WeightedMorphSetterBase: Cannot load morph "AWWalker.AWWalker_GEN_Morphs_Minora.1:/Custom/Atom/Person/Morphs/female_genitalia/AWWalker/AWWalker_GEN_Morphs_Minora/AWW_Right_Minora_Back_3_Down.vmi"
!> WeightedMorphSetterBase: Cannot load morph "AWWalker.AWWalker_GEN_Morphs_Minora.1:/Custom/Atom/Person/Morphs/female_genitalia/AWWalker/AWWalker_GEN_Morphs_Minora/AWW_Left_Minora_Middle_1_Down.vmi"
!> WeightedMorphSetterBase: Cannot load morph "AWWalker.AWWalker_GEN_Morphs_Minora.1:/Custom/Atom/Person/Morphs/female_genitalia/AWWalker/AWWalker_GEN_Morphs_Minora/AWW_Left_Minora_Middle_2_Down.vmi"
!> WeightedMorphSetterBase: Cannot load morph "AWWalker.AWWalker_GEN_Morphs_Minora.1:/Custom/Atom/Person/Morphs/female_genitalia/AWWalker/AWWalker_GEN_Morphs_Minora/AWW_Right_Minora_Middle_1_Down.vmi"
!> WeightedMorphSetterBase: Cannot load morph "AWWalker.AWWalker_GEN_Morphs_Minora.1:/Custom/Atom/Person/Morphs/female_genitalia/AWWalker/AWWalker_GEN_Morphs_Minora/AWW_Right_Minora_Middle_2_Down.vmi"
!> WeightedMorphSetterBase: Cannot load morph "AWWalker.AWWalker_GEN_Morphs_Minora.1:/Custom/Atom/Person/Morphs/female_genitalia/AWWalker/AWWalker_GEN_Morphs_Minora/AWW_Left_Minora_Front_Down.vmi"
!> WeightedMorphSetterBase: Cannot load morph "AWWalker.AWWalker_GEN_Morphs_Minora.1:/Custom/Atom/Person/Morphs/female_genitalia/AWWalker/AWWalker_GEN_Morphs_Minora/AWW_Right_Minora_Front_Down.vmi"
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I'm sorry for the errors, those morphs are currently integrated in version 1.0.7, my fault to distribute new version without them.
 
Uxot said:
This would conflict with openup plugin right? :(
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Hi Uxot, in my test with version v0.9.2 (crablikecrab.OpenUp.5) it seems ok to use it, as long as you don't attach the AddToMale_Optional.cslist on male and modifiy the colliders since it can disable native colliders and enable it's own managed ones. DeeperPlugin doesn't recognize those colliders resulting in no effect about orefices enlargerment, collision detection and ignore, receiver colliders manipulations, and so on.
You can try to see if in your scenario something breaks but, as a developer, I don't recommend to use them together.

Personal Note:
Remember that DeeperPlugin can use alternative colliders (GenCollidersFixer Feature), can adapt them during penetration and pose changes, can keep native colliders enabled as triggers and manipulate them if required and most important GenCollidersFixer colliders are automagically placed correctly if penis bones are correctly set (using my https://hub.virtamate.com/resources/genbonesfixers.57151/).
 
yeah the "GenCollidersFixer" is what ive been waiting for for years and the bone fix morph too! awesome plugin ill test asap :)
 
Hi there Boris! Love the plugin, and it has been really helpful in the creation of alot of the scenes I've been working on - Any way that you could add a button to hide the bar at the top of the screen in edit mode? thats really the only complaint that I have, other than this the plugin works great and beat alot of the expectations I had, thanks in advance!
 
Nice plugin you can really see the time and effort you put in it. Menus are still overwhelming but its working nice with defaults.
The cherry on the cake you thought about my fav plugin Bodylanguage.:)
Only annoyance on my end is Naturalis paid version v93 Bootymagic produce a puckering giggle arround the anus to the inner glutes as soon as penetration starts.
Played with nearly all colliders and morph settings in Naturalis and no change.
Disabled Bootymagic and its gone.
Keep up the nice work.(y)
 
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