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Plugins + Scripts Micro Expressions
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O.k., cool, yeah I just tried that, works great. thanks!
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Hi! I truly love your tool and I spend a month developing a full set of animations and I'm super happy with that but now that I'm packing the scene the plugin doesn't work (in the scene and preset that are packed only, it still works great in the scene and preset they are made from) :/
To be more specific, in my packed scene I can see your plugin making it's work as it should and going through the animations I made, but it's not activating any of the morphs I used, except the ones that are built in VAM, those are the only ones that still works. For example not one of AshAuryn's is activated in the packed version of the scene (even though they were detected and put as dependencies), and if I go to look to one of the animation I made, I can see that the curbs are still there and the the morphs are referenced but they are not activating. Now, if I go find that same morph that should be activated and add it to this same animation, even though it's already present, it will add it (wich your plugin usually prevents) and this time the one I add will work (but the other still won't).
> So I'm guessing it's maybe that when I'm packing my scene and animations in the .var the morphs that comes from dependencies are not at the same path anymore for the plugin, or something like that? What can I do then? Or did I do something wrong?
To be more specific, in my packed scene I can see your plugin making it's work as it should and going through the animations I made, but it's not activating any of the morphs I used, except the ones that are built in VAM, those are the only ones that still works. For example not one of AshAuryn's is activated in the packed version of the scene (even though they were detected and put as dependencies), and if I go to look to one of the animation I made, I can see that the curbs are still there and the the morphs are referenced but they are not activating. Now, if I go find that same morph that should be activated and add it to this same animation, even though it's already present, it will add it (wich your plugin usually prevents) and this time the one I add will work (but the other still won't).
> So I'm guessing it's maybe that when I'm packing my scene and animations in the .var the morphs that comes from dependencies are not at the same path anymore for the plugin, or something like that? What can I do then? Or did I do something wrong?
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Ok so I've look at the .json(s), and whether it's the one for my preset in your plugin, the one of my general preset, the one of the plugin preset or the one of my scene, in every case I see that everything that is link to an existing .var (dependencies) or that is in my custom folder gets renamed a bit in the version that's packed (not for just the lines concerning your plugin, but for everything, like clothes for example).
As such, in the text concerning your plugin every morphs referred to the path "AshAurynSomethingPack.7" gets renamed to "AshAurynSomethingPack.latest" by the package builder (I would guess) and your plugin doesn't recognize and activate them anymore, then every morphs referred to "Custom/Atometc" is renamed as "SELF:Custom/Atometc" and so they too aren't played anymore (even though the morph in question is pack inside the .var), but then the morphs that are built in VAM have the same name in both the original and packed file so they are still activated by the plugin in the packed version. Hope this helps.
As such, in the text concerning your plugin every morphs referred to the path "AshAurynSomethingPack.7" gets renamed to "AshAurynSomethingPack.latest" by the package builder (I would guess) and your plugin doesn't recognize and activate them anymore, then every morphs referred to "Custom/Atometc" is renamed as "SELF:Custom/Atometc" and so they too aren't played anymore (even though the morph in question is pack inside the .var), but then the morphs that are built in VAM have the same name in both the original and packed file so they are still activated by the plugin in the packed version. Hope this helps.
About that speed setting... I think that useful feature would be to have some kind of exposed speed parameter for given animation or globally, so it can seamlessly sync with Timeline. Maybe it would need a new internal value? Let's say I have both timeline animation and expression duration set to 2: by default it would sync perfectly, but when I change Timeline speed, expression would lag behind (unless I change it manually). So I guess if it had extra parameter of speed (for current animation and perhaps even global slider for full compatibility?), one could use just VUML + Action Grouper to keep timeline global/current animation speeds to expression speeds synced - guess each expression animation would need its own speed slider. Changing duration manually is a good workaround, but if you use float param randomizer to randomize speed of the timeline animation, it would be great if you could have both synced that way.
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Another suggestion: would be nice if you could manually input a value to a keyframe, or make first and last keyframe sync automatically (or enable ctrl+click drag vertically, so you can make sure first and last have same values). Often I want to start from specific value and go back to it, but it is only easy if you start on 0 because it snaps to it.
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Another suggestion: would be nice if you could manually input a value to a keyframe, or make first and last keyframe sync automatically (or enable ctrl+click drag vertically, so you can make sure first and last have same values). Often I want to start from specific value and go back to it, but it is only easy if you start on 0 because it snaps to it.
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An incredible tool 
Just WOW!!!
May I suggest a function..
How about creating keys without bezier curves..?
As you can see, when the keyframes are close enough together, curve crosses itself:
It would be very useful to be able to add simple (linear) keyframes.
without having to edit each key handle individually
(If the animation drags on, these handles will blur into one another, and might just get lost in the shuffle)
Just WOW!!!May I suggest a function..
How about creating keys without bezier curves..?
As you can see, when the keyframes are close enough together, curve crosses itself:
It would be very useful to be able to add simple (linear) keyframes.
without having to edit each key handle individually
(If the animation drags on, these handles will blur into one another, and might just get lost in the shuffle)
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Another useful feature will be parameter (trigger) : Play\Stop
I mean, stop/play looping playback while tuning (editing) keyframes.
in this case, we will be able to assign hotkeys for this function.
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I'd also love a wider UI – those long animations can make navigating the keys a bit of a challenge! If you could add a zoom feature, that would be absolutely perfect.
I mean, stop/play looping playback while tuning (editing) keyframes.
in this case, we will be able to assign hotkeys for this function.
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I'd also love a wider UI – those long animations can make navigating the keys a bit of a challenge! If you could add a zoom feature, that would be absolutely perfect.
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I'll add one more wish for the future: Timeline morph template export (for later baking).
Timeline is certainly a powerful tool, but adding morphing (in the form of triggers) is incredibly difficult. It takes 2 to 5 minutes to find just one, and there can be over 20 of them in animations.
As a result, a simple action takes at least half an hour.
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After experimenting, I came up with a simple way: manually edit the preset timeline.
It's a breeze! We just need to pop all the morph names from the MicroExpressions preset into the preset blocks of the Timeline.
Then load the preset
bake the keys.. Done
Timeline is certainly a powerful tool, but adding morphing (in the form of triggers) is incredibly difficult. It takes 2 to 5 minutes to find just one, and there can be over 20 of them in animations.
As a result, a simple action takes at least half an hour.
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After experimenting, I came up with a simple way: manually edit the preset timeline.
It's a breeze! We just need to pop all the morph names from the MicroExpressions preset into the preset blocks of the Timeline.
Then load the preset
bake the keys.. Done
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Thanks for the feedback, really cool to see it being used. Sorry I've been a bit inactive of late so only just saw this. I agree It would be great to export the morph setup to timeline for baking, let me see if it's possible.
Yeah the tool doesn't work so well for longer animations, probably needs a scrollbar or wider area as you point out. I will have a look into that - making it wider is probably fairly easy.
Would be really interesting to see what you've done with it.
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To be honest; I didn't do anything Much.
but you can watch my attempts on this video. This video doesn't show how I baked keys in timeline, As it's all done in a text editor (I didn't record this process)
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Hah that's so cool! Really does bring her to life! Love the music. I'm kind of inspired to do some more with it now._
To be honest; I didn't do anything Much.
but you can watch my attempts on this video. This video doesn't show how I baked keys in timeline, As it's all done in a text editor (I didn't record this process)
I built this originally as a screen overlay because it was so annoying having to switch between plugin screens, but I just discovered the awesome Custom UI resizer by https://hub.virtamate.com/resources/customui-panelresizer.60131 from @14mhz which allows the UI to float (like you have in your SS), plus also adds horizontal scrolling automatically - so maybe I can port it back to a standard plugin screen and get a larger editing area and scrolling for free
