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Apple hype train 🚂

Apple's headset

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  • Revolutionary

    Votes: 2 50.0%
  • Flop

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  • More of the same

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Next week should mark a key event in the history of VR: Apple enters the headsets race by presenting it's new device at the WWDC.
Depending on how well it goes, VR might jump in a golden age or fall deeper in these dark ages

For people out of the loop, here's the rumors:

- Sources say it was supposed to be announced at the beginning of this year, but it was delayed due to software issues
- It was intended to be launched even as far back as 2019, but it got delayed year after year since then
- It's going to be crazy expensive ($3000)
- It's going to have extremely high tech display: 4000 pixels per inch. Quest 2 has 773 for reference, Rift S has 538, Vive Pro 615 PPI.
Technically with that high of a resolution it should be able to replace physical monitors for productivity tasks (reading, writing). Not to mention better porn!
- the displays should be able to provide much more light than other headsets around, making things look more vivid. Most headsets shine at 100 nits, which is comparable to old CRT TVs and monitors. Apple's headset supposedly shines at 5000 nits but the percieved light should be 500-1000nits due to the lenses used. That's similar or better than an iPhone X and most modern TVs
- It will almost certainly use foveated rendering for better performance. Instead of rendering at 100% quality, the headset should track the eye position and render at max quality just a small portion of the screen, leaving everything else low quality since you can't really see it anyway
- It's safe to assume they'll continue tradition with a closed ecosystem, ignore existings standards and games and do their own closed games & apps, which will be extremely scarce for a while. To launch something this expensive and with so much hype around it for so long, they MUST have a killer feature. The speculation is that it's crazy good AR, the likes we've been hearing about for years from Magic Leap
- There's going to be an "iBelt" holding the battery. I haven't seen any rumors about this but it would be such a waste of space to not add a tracker on that for the torso or some other features


I'm excited to watch how it will play out. It seems like it's going to be either revolutionary or a massive disaster.

What do you guys think or hope to see? Anyone else hyped?
 
Apple's headset supposedly shines at 5000 nits
Ok, so this thing will burn your eyes away. Nice 😅

Interesting, lets see how this will turn out in reality. At 3000$ I think anyone in here will own one a couple of days after release, for sure.
I think the Index 2 will be more my kind of "style". But progress is always a good thing.
 
Don't get me wrong, I ain't planning on buying it neither. It would have to be some life-changing experience to convince me.

But it's exciting to see if this is going to be a new iphone moment and the next step for vr/ar. Or if they'll drop the ball too.

Tech wise I think they'll deliver on what magic leap has bean teasing for years, actually make it work for mainstream use.

Those dudes went from 8 years ago promising this for casual users to this just now almost a decade later

 
I know what you meant ;)
Like I said: if this brings VR/AR to a new "level", lets go!
I'm excited as well if new headsets come out.
 
1:46:23 starts the headset
3499$
Available in the US early 2024, other countrys following that year
5000 patents in the process
new OS (visionOS)
new processor for cameras and sensors only
each display higher resolution than a 4K monitor (23 milion together)
glas front
aluminum body
headband changeable
new sound system ("audio raytracing")
and so on ...

To be honest, it sounds really yummy. This looks like the "has everything" device we all searched for. BUT, it's an apple. Closed system, therefore apple apps only (?), your iris (!) will be scanned (all secured and data will stay in the device only, yeah ... sure). And of course the price.
If this would be an open software headset for like 2000$, I would buy probably. So, I'm waiting for the Index 2. I can wait.

I wouldn't call it revolutionary as in your poll, I would say progressive definitely.

At least, this won't happen with the headset:
Love it 😂

Did I already say that I hate apple? Though I'm proud owner of an iPod 80GB. The only apple device you can be proud of.

@SPQR
Finished my editing! Still loving it? 😁
 
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The presentation was meh for me, but the tech as a whole is a very big step forward. Meta & magic leap HQs in shambles right now.

Some things that stood out for me:
- taking photos & videos seems like a killer feature. If it can record 180 SBS I think it will sell out just for recording purposes alone. I'm not sure if it can do that though. Maybe it's a smaller FOV, more like 3d movies
- the support for Unity means that there's going to be gaming for it too at launch and given the specs it could look pretty crazy. Technically it could get some blade runner-esque holographic applications the likes of which people have been fantasizing for decades. It will likely get just dinosaur demos and experimental mini-games though
- seems fantastic for productivity and something that many people have been dreaming for a long time, a portable virtual environment they can work in

All that being said, I can see it being just a gimmicky luxury item given the price and the approach they seem to be taking with their pitch so far.
 
My only VR use case is VaM, so to me this is way overpriced. But I'm really interested in how VaM would look like with these ...
 
I've seen a comparison for a different headset, a chinese kind-of-scam.
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I think this image reflects the difference that's going to be between the image quality of most headsets available and apple's (which is actually more ppi than that). The jump is so big that I think it would likely blend with reality most of the time, even more so paired with AR. Likely a very trippy experience
 
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